What Jacket Are You Wearing Today?

[TartuWolf]

@The Lost Cowboy
Thank you for your extremely thorough and informative response! Glad that my sharing of plans/thoughts provoked it, respect to you sir!

 

[The Lost Cowboy]

@The Lost Cowboy
Thank you for your extremely thorough and informative response! Glad that my sharing of plans/thoughts provoked it, respect to you sir!

Good response sir…. And I’m glad for the opportunity to finally defend shorts on this thread!

 

[Observe]

Desert robes such as thawbs perform a triple function in their specific dry environment: they allow air to circulate during the day while protecting the skin from the sun, but they also (to some extent) keep the body’s heat in at night when the desert gets cold. Try wearing a thawb in a jungle and by mid-morning it will cling to your upper body like a shower curtain and you’ll be dragging it around like a corpse all day. Your trousers and shirt are in no way analogous to a robe since you can remove the shirt and still keep the trousers. This is not a small difference.

Shorts, on the other hand, ARE analogous to numerous culture's short skirts for men (such as the Roman tunic) or loin cloths worn by men the world over throughout history (also in extreme desert environments, eg, the Navajo). They are also somewhat analogous to options like the sarong where the length is easily modified. Go to India or Indonesia today and you will see many many laborers with their sarongs tied up between their legs or rolled up high at the waste to bring the hem above their knees. Are these "shorts"? No, but they serve the same function and are much more analogous to shorts than linen trousers and shirts are to the robes worn by desert-dwellers.

This thread’s antagonism to short trousers is understandable since it’s mostly a leather jacket community. I get that. If you think shorts look silly, fine - but implying they don’t serve a practical function or don't have precedent throughout human culture and history is simply not accurate.

The long story of shorts.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

Just an update on the Appalachian. Been a little over a week since getting it.
The leather already started to soften up nicely. We had heavy rainfall in NY on Memorial Day, so took it out which jumpstarted the break in.

Really starting to dig it more. It's true, it only gets better as you wear it. Unfortunately, I've had to wear it mostly at home for the time-being

 

[barnabus]

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New to me Dobbs in a Ricard/Viscount/Monza type pattern

Cool!

I've never seen another one. I've got a Dobbs in that pattern, but mine was a custom job in special colours.

I exchanged a few emails with Rachel Dobbs (who took over the company from her father when he passed) after I got the jacket, and she confirmed that the style is circa 1982 and is called Double Diamond.

Mine is two tone blue. I keep meaning to put a picture in the colourful cafe racer thread.

Mine also came with leather jeans in matching blue, to make a riding suit.

 

[Observe]

Just an update on the Appalachian. Been a little over a week since getting it.
The leather already started to soften up nicely. We had heavy rainfall in NY on Memorial Day, so took it out which jumpstarted the break in.

Really starting to dig it more. It's true, it only gets better as you wear it. Unfortunately, I've had to wear it mostly at home for the time-being

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I love this jacket!

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

I love this jacket!

It feels like a completely different one now... so I'm falling in love with it all over again!

 

[NZJono]

Desert robes such as thawbs perform a triple function in their specific dry environment: they allow air to circulate during the day while protecting the skin from the sun, but they also (to some extent) keep the body’s heat in at night when the desert gets cold. Try wearing a thawb in a jungle and by mid-morning it will cling to your upper body like a shower curtain and you’ll be dragging it around like a corpse all day. Your trousers and shirt are in no way analogous to a robe since you can remove the shirt and still keep the trousers. This is not a small difference.

Shorts, on the other hand, ARE analogous to numerous culture's short skirts for men (such as the Roman tunic) or loin cloths worn by men the world over throughout history (also in extreme desert environments, eg, the Navajo). They are also somewhat analogous to options like the sarong where the length is easily modified. Go to India or Indonesia today and you will see many many laborers with their sarongs tied up between their legs or rolled up high at the waste to bring the hem above their knees. Are these "shorts"? No, but they serve the same function and are much more analogous to shorts than linen trousers and shirts are to the robes worn by desert-dwellers.

This thread’s antagonism to short trousers is understandable since it’s mostly a leather jacket community. I get that. If you think shorts look silly, fine - but implying they don’t serve a practical function or don't have precedent throughout human culture and history is simply not accurate.

Good points. Shorts are the go-to summer option down here in New Zealand ( and Australia). I agree that we should look at other options such light trousers or robes which probably make more sense given we have the worlds highest rates of melanoma down here.

 

[The Lost Cowboy]

Good points. Shorts are the go-to summer option down here in New Zealand ( and Australia). I agree that we should look at other options such light trousers or robes which probably make more sense given we have the worlds highest rates of melanoma down here.

Melanoma is one of the best arguments against shorts. Mosquito-born diseases might be better, though. I don’t worry about either where I am here in the US, but when I’m in Asia I actually wear long Thai trousers with cotton socks, shoes and a light long-sleeve cotton shirt. Dengue fever is no joke.

 

[Mrfrown]

Testing out new Sugar Cane pants, too hot for the RC Hercules but the pants are a winner in my book. Roomy enough to feel breezy but not super oversized either. Really dig how this all works together.

I’ll be posting more about it soon but Rainbow Country has agreed to let me be a vendor for them in the USA. Got confirmation today and learned simultaneously that I have to make the order by Friday so it’s crunch time lol.

That being said if you’ve been looking for a new Hercules hit me up! Especially if you need a smaller or larger size, otherwise I’ll be ordering near the center of the size curve. I may get other models but will have to see.

 

[dudewuttheheck]

Desert robes such as thawbs perform a triple function in their specific dry environment: they allow air to circulate during the day while protecting the skin from the sun, but they also (to some extent) keep the body’s heat in at night when the desert gets cold. Try wearing a thawb in a jungle and by mid-morning it will cling to your upper body like a shower curtain and you’ll be dragging it around like a corpse all day. Your trousers and shirt are in no way analogous to a robe since you can remove the shirt and still keep the trousers. This is not a small difference.

Shorts, on the other hand, ARE analogous to numerous culture's short skirts for men (such as the Roman tunic) or loin cloths worn by men the world over throughout history (also in extreme desert environments, eg, the Navajo). They are also somewhat analogous to options like the sarong where the length is easily modified. Go to India or Indonesia today and you will see many many laborers with their sarongs tied up between their legs or rolled up high at the waste to bring the hem above their knees. Are these "shorts"? No, but they serve the same function and are much more analogous to shorts than linen trousers and shirts are to the robes worn by desert-dwellers.

This thread’s antagonism to short trousers is understandable since it’s mostly a leather jacket community. I get that. If you think shorts look silly, fine - but implying they don’t serve a practical function or don't have precedent throughout human culture and history is simply not accurate.

Very informative. There's definitely historical precedent for shorts. I refuse to wear them outside of swimming or exercising because I hate how they look.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

Testing out new Sugar Cane pants, too hot for the RC Hercules but the pants are a winner in my book. Roomy enough to feel breezy but not super oversized either. Really dig how this all works together.

I’ll be posting more about it soon but Rainbow Country has agreed to let me be a vendor for them in the USA. Got confirmation today and learned simultaneously that I have to make the order by Friday so it’s crunch time lol.

That being said if you’ve been looking for a new Hercules hit me up! Especially if you need a smaller or larger size, otherwise I’ll be ordering near the center of the size curve. I may get other models but will have to see.

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Congrats on becoming a US vendor for RC!

 

[Fonzie]

Testing out new Sugar Cane pants, too hot for the RC Hercules but the pants are a winner in my book. Roomy enough to feel breezy but not super oversized either. Really dig how this all works together.

I’ll be posting more about it soon but Rainbow Country has agreed to let me be a vendor for them in the USA. Got confirmation today and learned simultaneously that I have to make the order by Friday so it’s crunch time lol.

That being said if you’ve been looking for a new Hercules hit me up! Especially if you need a smaller or larger size, otherwise I’ll be ordering near the center of the size curve. I may get other models but will have to see.

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Great news! Congrats and good luck in your new venture.

 

[Mrfrown]

Thanks yall. Turns out sometimes when you go down the rabbit hole you decide to become it lol

 

[Bennarion]

Testing out new Sugar Cane pants, too hot for the RC Hercules but the pants are a winner in my book. Roomy enough to feel breezy but not super oversized either. Really dig how this all works together.

I’ll be posting more about it soon but Rainbow Country has agreed to let me be a vendor for them in the USA. Got confirmation today and learned simultaneously that I have to make the order by Friday so it’s crunch time lol.

That being said if you’ve been looking for a new Hercules hit me up! Especially if you need a smaller or larger size, otherwise I’ll be ordering near the center of the size curve. I may get other models but will have to see.

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You have chosen the right path. These pants will go well with all your leather jackets.

 

[Bennarion]

Just an update on the Appalachian. Been a little over a week since getting it.
The leather already started to soften up nicely. We had heavy rainfall in NY on Memorial Day, so took it out which jumpstarted the break in.

Really starting to dig it more. It's true, it only gets better as you wear it. Unfortunately, I've had to wear it mostly at home for the time-being

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The jacket is made for you. Keep wearing the jacket and it will be even cooler

 

[unhatted]

Cool!

I've never seen another one. I've got a Dobbs in that pattern, but mine was a custom job in special colours.

I exchanged a few emails with Rachel Dobbs (who took over the company from her father when he passed) after I got the jacket, and she confirmed that the style is circa 1982 and is called Double Diamond.

Mine is two tone blue. I keep meaning to put a picture in the colourful cafe racer thread.

Mine also came with leather jeans in matching blue, to make a riding suit.

Great jackets, though I’m finding this one quite unforgivingly athletic in cut! Along with Rivetts and Lewis, Kett also do a version of this pattern, though the Dobbs is the only one with the gap on the shoulder seam. I actually contacted Rachel a while ago to enquire about minor alterations to a non Dobbs jacket and she was very helpful and knows her stuff (she talked me out of the alterations, correctly)!

 

[Harris HTM]

 

[Viking752]

US Made Co.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Joe Mccoys Nelson MJ19115 from 2020 production, size 44, has a bigger back than front, back is also contoured in the half belt shape, boxier than Mobster. 50.01% functional main zip, maybe that's why my seller unloaded it me...