Pre-1917 "The Sheridan", made for the Bloom Shoe & Clothing Co, Sheridan , Wyoming by Thanhauser Hat Co. These are seller's photos. Edit: After receiving this hat, I found that it was actually made by Stetson and has a Stetson Lot Number on the sweatband.
The Sheridan by Thanhauser Hat Co. This is another pre-1917 hat where the Union label doesn't have the Printers Union bug in the upper left corner. This hat is for sale on eBay.
Pre-1917 T W Hobson & Co hat. I'm thinking it dates prior to 1917 because the Union label doesn't have the Union Printers "bug" in the upper left corner. The T W Hobson Co was incorporated in 1895.
I understand and wasn't reading anything otherwise into your remarks. Just thought I would remark on the hat's quality while I was at it, since I didn't mention it before.
Actually, what the brim width is can be debated. If you think the hat should be as pictured, with the brim edge turned up somewhat like a Homburg, then the finished width is about 2 1/2. If you think the hat has shrunk with age and the brim needs to be steamed flat, then it's 3 inches.
Pre-1917 T W Hobson & Co hat. Has 3 inch bound brim and 6 1/4 inch open crown. The edge binding is mostly on the bottom side, 1/2 inch binding. Has 2 inch sweatband and 2 1/8 inch ribbon. I'm dating this before 1917 because the Union label doesn't have the little Printers Union "bug" in the...
I see that sweatband phrase Leakproof and Sweatproof in the Miller Stockman catalogs from 1943 and still using it in 1956, which isn't a huge help in dating these hats and liners, but it's something, I suppose.
You're right. I was incredibly lucky to win the bid on this hat, and for much less than I was afraid it would take, but I was ready to bid to the Moon for this one, which I never expected to have a chance to own.
1950's Knox straw. Has 2 3/8 brim. I was also drawn to this hat because it was sold in South Carolina, where I have deep family roots going back to about 1750 or earlier.
Mallory Dallas that's for sale on eBay now. Has a keyhole shaped size tag like Stetson hats, but says Mallory on it. Can't recall seeing this tag before or been so long I've forgotten.
Here's a picture of a "Ray Bell shape" hat from the Hamley's catalog #36 from 1936, so Stetson was making Ray Bell hats at least by that date. This particular hat here has a 7 1/4 inch open crown and 4 inch brim.
I forgot to mention this Beaver Deluxe after I received it. Another great one. There's really little or no difference between this grade of Shudde hat and Stetson's 7X Clear Beaver.
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