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I do believe I'm being civil, albeit passionate. If not, please let me know.
Mr. Lucky said:I do believe I'm being civil, albeit passionate. If not, please let me know.
I didn't think that. But, seriously, I do get quite...excited about certain subjects. If I step out of line, feel free to let me know.Samsa said:I don't think anyone was singling you out, but commenting on the tone the thread has started to take in general.
Fast said:The british philosopher Hume used the unprovability of the existence or nonexistence of god in explaining "hume's fork" there he said that that which cannot be proved or disproved cannot be resolved and basically is a waste of time to argue. That's why they call it faith and belief.
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don't worry, you didn't come close, in any case I have boots with steel toes.but what did you mean to do?Bebop said:Would it be wise to assume others believe in the easter bunny or the tooth fairy also? Is it not unwise to ask to be taken seriously without any proof? By all means, everyone should think and believe how they want. I only assume the reasonable. Just a thought here too. Didn't mean to step on your toes also.
Mr. Lucky said:Excuse me, but I must beg to differ: I deeply admire people of true faith. When I say 'true', I mean a faith that provides solace and comfort in times of trouble and gratitude in during the good times. True faith that does not require superiority, agenda, or control over another. I know many people of that ilk from many a religion: I count as friends a Catholic priest, a Protestant Pastor and Rabbi. And, among them, there is respect for each others faith, not disdain. And, as far as I am concerned, respect for my differing interpretation and practice of, well, all of the above! I know many folks who talk about God on daily basis, but do so in a manner that invokes the idea that it's not about who is right, but about what can I learn from another that will help me find my way! That is the spiritual! And spiritual trancends dogma because one is of man and the other is...more!
To put in such narrow terms, as above, a mass generalization is to do a dis-service to all. We ALL seek...meaning, answers, comfort. But comfort found in setting yourself above another simply because of your beliefs is not comfort at all, it is hubris. And hubris, as is most of those dark aspects of the ego, human - not divine.
Now, I am not directing this at you specifically, John. I just find that when such a general position is taken, it must be rebutted.
metropd said:But I would never pray to a god who interacts with this world because NO god worth praying for would let those autrocities happen to such beautiful people.
surely said:it may be reasonable to treat them with respect in public communication even though you may regard their position with derision.
metropd said:But I would never pray to a god who interacts with this world because NO god worth praying for would let those autrocities happen to such beautiful people.
SpitfireXIV said:there wasn't an "Evangelical" option, so i went with the most closely related in my opinion: "Baptist." "Lutheran" would have also worked, seeing how i do believe in what Martin Luther beleived in....
i think it would have been easier if it were polled by religion, and not break it down into denominations... denominations just tend to differ on the finer details, not the particular God.
*************metropd said:I am Jewish as everyone has probably figured out and my family has had some remarkable survivors but I call myself Jewish for the blood spilled in my family's name, as a remberence of their lives, not because of an intangable force. The way I like to think if god created man he lets man create his own destiny . But I would never pray to a god who interacts with this world because NO god worth praying for would let those autrocities happen to such beautiful people.
MK said:That would be a God who wouldn't allow free will.
Samsa said:Not necessarily... God must have known what would happen in every era of mankind's existence. He knew that the holocaust would happen, He knew about the black death, Hiroshima, etc....yet He still created the world, knowing what evils would befall innocent people.
RIOT said:Nostradamus is god? :eusa_doh: lol
Samsa said:What?
My point is that the Judeo-Christian God - one that is *omniscient* - would have known such things, yet proceeded with Creation anyhow.
I guess I don't understand what you're getting at.
RIOT said:Just different strokes for different folks, that's all.