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Thick, heavy brown suede trucker jacket, size 42

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My position is pretty simple: the seller asked a question. The potential buyer and the previous owner was perfectly entitled to respond, “No sir, that doesn't work for me,” or even make a counteroffer. That's how a negotiation works.
What I don't understand is why it had to turn confrontational.
How does turning a straightforward disagreement into a public confrontation help anyone? A little courtesy and perspective would have gone a long way here. Not every disagreement needs to become an argument.
Well, that's how I look at it, but maybe I am wrong.
The last bump is the sale price. Why would I negotiate down from a higher sale price than what’s advertised? That’s just plain dumb AF.
 

Shawnziee

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Well, Ton312, let's revisit his actual question: “Despite the current price, would you be open to paying what I paid you to acquire it so I break even?” You could simply have responded, “No sir, that doesn't work for me. I'm willing to pay the posted price.” Couldn't you? I'm simply questioning what was accomplished by taking the more confrontational route when a straightforward, courteous response would have sufficed.
Again, that is what I would do; maybe I am wrong.......
 
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Well, Ton312, let's revisit his actual question: “Despite the current price, would you be open to paying what I paid you to acquire it so I break even?” You could simply have responded, “No sir, that doesn't work for me. I'm willing to pay the posted price.” Couldn't you? I'm simply questioning what was accomplished by taking the more confrontational route when a straightforward, courteous response would have sufficed.
Again, that is what I would do; maybe I am wrong.......
Why would I be willing to pay more than the advertised last offered price? As a seller with far more sales than this guy this type of buffoonery is beneath me. I would never even dream of asking. I’ve donated **** for free here worth more than this jacket. Its principle. And you don’t ****ing get it.
 
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Ton sold it to me for $200. It’s it the exact same condition now as it was then. I asked if he’d be open to paying me what I paid him originally. Seems fair to me. Even exchange. He got butthurt over $75. He couldn’t get the super bargain he wanted. He knows this jacket is worth more than the current asking price. Simple as that.

If you guys don’t like this jacket, the price, or my proposal (private, mind you) to Ton, kindly move along. I’ve been a member here for years and have bought and sold many jackets on this forum with ZERO issues. That track record speaks for itself. And I’ve never posted private messages publicly.
While I can understand you are embarrassed by your own buffoonery, the fact remains you are a scab. Maybe I should also post the numerous messages you sent me asking for advice on all the purchases you made? Would you like me to do that? It’s all recorded here in your DM’s! Know your seller people. This guy is a classic TFL CLOWN.
 
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Gamma68

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Yes, Ton and I have had lots of PMs in the past about lots of different jacket topics. They’ve always been pleasant, which makes his most recent behavior…odd, to say the least.

Ton’s fortunate that I haven’t posted his profanity-laced PM to me from yesterday here publicly.
 
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You spent two years peppering my inbox for advice. Seeking my help and experience. This was no even exchange of ideas. You asked for my help repeatedly, over and over again and I gave it to you. If you think I’m butthurt over $75 you just don’t get it and I can’t explain it to you.

I’ve had it with this place and it’s largely due to people like you. Self serving vampires looking to use someone else’s knowledge and experience for their own personal gain. Shame on me for obliging. Lesson learned.
 

nirvana42

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Yes, Ton and I have had lots of PMs in the past about lots of different jacket topics. They’ve always been pleasant, which makes his most recent behavior…odd, to say the least.

Ton’s fortunate that I haven’t posted his profanity-laced PM to me from yesterday here publicly.
If it's been pleasant in the past, why did you try to upcharge him on the sale? Odd, to say the least.
 

Biff42

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Well, Ton312, let's revisit his actual question: “Despite the current price, would you be open to paying what I paid you to acquire it so I break even?” You could simply have responded, “No sir, that doesn't work for me. I'm willing to pay the posted price.” Couldn't you? I'm simply questioning what was accomplished by taking the more confrontational route when a straightforward, courteous response would have sufficed.
Again, that is what I would do; maybe I am wrong.......

You're wrong dude. The selling price is the price.
 

CriscoPisco

New in Town
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Ton sold it to me for $200. It’s it the exact same condition now as it was then. I asked if he’d be open to paying me what I paid him originally. Seems fair to me. Even exchange. He got butthurt over $75. He couldn’t get the super bargain he wanted. He knows this jacket is worth more than the current asking price. Simple as that.
Then it seems to me you should have started with a $200 asking price. You listed it at $150, dropped to $125 and then attempted to raise the price when the original owner showed interest. That is absurd and bad form to say the least. At this point you may as well list it on an auction site, close this ad, and get whatever you can for it.
 

Gamma68

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SOLD to a FL member

Thanks to everyone, especially Ton, for all the interest, boosting this thread and giving the jacket extra promotion for the sale.
 

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