The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

[Daniele Tanto]

Beautiful Borsalino, Daniele. The bow style is unusual for Borsalino. Very nice.

Beautiful hat Daniele. Wonderful color

Happy New Year

Thanks Stefan and Joe. The Borsalino Amiata has a particular color, I don't know why and a "special ribbon, but it is too wide for my head.
An unusual event

 

[Francesco1992]

Hello anyone. I was requested from @Steve1857 to post here a particular Borsalino Giuseppe hat I have got, from a discussion in the Borsalino fu Lazzaro thread. I think this hat to be a real wonder. Obviously it is clear that it needs a heavy restoration and it absolutely needs to be put in shape (That's why pictures only show it with the crown open). I have bought it just only a month ago, so I still have to find the time to put my hands on it.
I am pretty sure this hat comes from the second half of the 1920s, also because the size label is still glued on the sweatband inside; anyway, it has a very very wide brim, and a relatively low crown and ribbon. I have rarely seen shapes like these before. I am looking forward to discover how beautiful it will be when it will be ready!
The color codes from the inside labels are "Argento - c.Nera - X Cronaca" - and it was sold from the Antonio Bronzini hat shop in Novara, Piemonte, northern Italy.
Do you passionate collectors and hat lovers agree with what I have stated or not?

 

[Steve1857]

Hello anyone. I was requested from @Steve1857 to post here a particular Borsalino Giuseppe hat I have got, from a discussion in the Borsalino fu Lazzaro thread. I think this hat to be a real wonder. Obviously it is clear that it needs a heavy restoration and it absolutely needs to be put in shape (That's why pictures only show it with the crown open). I have bought it just only a month ago, so I still have to find the time to put my hands on it.
I am pretty sure this hat comes from the second half of the 1920s, also because the size label is still glued on the sweatband inside; anyway, it has a very very wide brim, and a relatively low crown and ribbon. I have rarely seen shapes like these before. I am looking forward to discover how beautiful it will be when it will be ready!
The color codes from the inside labels are "Argento - c.Nera - X Cronaca" - and it was sold from the Antonio Bronzini hat shop in Novara, Piemonte, northern Italy.
Do you passionate collectors and hat lovers agree with what I have stated or not?

It was Stefan @stuer who asked you to post this one in the Borsalino Brotherhood thread, not me.

He saw you had a Borsalino. I thought you had a G.B. Borsalino fu Lazzaro.

Please post a photo of the label under the sweatband, if there is one.

 

[Francesco1992]

It was Stefan @stuer who asked you to post this one in the Borsalino Brotherhood thread, not me.

He saw you had a Borsalino. I thought you had a G.B. Borsalino fu Lazzaro.

Please post a photo of the label under the sweatband, if there is one.

you're right Steve, I was already posting the label pic it but don't know why it has not been uploaded. I will add it to the post and also show you in this message. Thanks you made me notice it.

 

[Steve1857]

you're right Steve, I was already posting the label pic it but don't know why it has not been uploaded. I will add it to the post and also show you in this message. Thanks you made me notice it.

The paper label puts it in the time frame you mentioned, Francesco.

Stefan and Daniele will hopefully add to your post. They're the true Borsalino experts.

 

[mayserwegener]

Hello anyone. I was requested from @Steve1857 to post here a particular Borsalino Giuseppe hat I have got, from a discussion in the Borsalino fu Lazzaro thread. I think this hat to be a real wonder. Obviously it is clear that it needs a heavy restoration and it absolutely needs to be put in shape (That's why pictures only show it with the crown open). I have bought it just only a month ago, so I still have to find the time to put my hands on it.
I am pretty sure this hat comes from the second half of the 1920s, also because the size label is still glued on the sweatband inside; anyway, it has a very very wide brim, and a relatively low crown and ribbon. I have rarely seen shapes like these before. I am looking forward to discover how beautiful it will be when it will be ready!
The color codes from the inside labels are "Argento - c.Nera - X Cronaca" - and it was sold from the Antonio Bronzini hat shop in Novara, Piemonte, northern Italy.
Do you passionate collectors and hat lovers agree with what I have stated or not?

Great find! I think that is a good time estimate. Here is a thread on Borsalinos with Celled Paper Labels which I need to update.

Borsalinos with Celled Paper Labels

After looking through the entire Borsalino Brotherhood thread I found that there are two Celled Paper Label types. Type 1 (Sweatband Date Stamped 05/17/1929) Type 2 (No Date) Type 2 is slightly longer and less wide than Type 1. The Type 2 cell size and alignment are also different. The...

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[steur]

Hello anyone. I was requested from @Steve1857 to post here a particular Borsalino Giuseppe hat I have got, from a discussion in the Borsalino fu Lazzaro thread. I think this hat to be a real wonder. Obviously it is clear that it needs a heavy restoration and it absolutely needs to be put in shape (That's why pictures only show it with the crown open). I have bought it just only a month ago, so I still have to find the time to put my hands on it.
I am pretty sure this hat comes from the second half of the 1920s, also because the size label is still glued on the sweatband inside; anyway, it has a very very wide brim, and a relatively low crown and ribbon. I have rarely seen shapes like these before. I am looking forward to discover how beautiful it will be when it will be ready!
The color codes from the inside labels are "Argento - c.Nera - X Cronaca" - and it was sold from the Antonio Bronzini hat shop in Novara, Piemonte, northern Italy.
Do you passionate collectors and hat lovers agree with what I have stated or not?

It's fantastic and especially good to see one in a lighter colour. Like the others have said: the time frame of late twenties or maybe early thirties seems about right.

 

[PanosChris]

Hello anyone. I was requested from @Steve1857 to post here a particular Borsalino Giuseppe hat I have got, from a discussion in the Borsalino fu Lazzaro thread. I think this hat to be a real wonder. Obviously it is clear that it needs a heavy restoration and it absolutely needs to be put in shape (That's why pictures only show it with the crown open). I have bought it just only a month ago, so I still have to find the time to put my hands on it.
I am pretty sure this hat comes from the second half of the 1920s, also because the size label is still glued on the sweatband inside; anyway, it has a very very wide brim, and a relatively low crown and ribbon. I have rarely seen shapes like these before. I am looking forward to discover how beautiful it will be when it will be ready!
The color codes from the inside labels are "Argento - c.Nera - X Cronaca" - and it was sold from the Antonio Bronzini hat shop in Novara, Piemonte, northern Italy.
Do you passionate collectors and hat lovers agree with what I have stated or not?

Super find! Besides the worn ribbon doesn't seem in bad shape I think

 

[PanosChris]

Brent informed me about that one quite some time ago and curiosity got the best of me

Color of the lead (Pb). In person it has some dark steel-blue hints. I always thought the star system was meant for the US market only, probably not. Nice short velour and thick felt

 

[Blare]

Brent informed me about that one quite some time ago and curiosity got the best of me
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View attachment 478214 Color of the lead (Pb). In person it has some dark steel-blue hints. I always thought the star system was meant for the US market only, probably not. Nice short velour and thick felt

Love it

 

[Daniele Tanto]

Color of the lead (Pb). In person it has some dark steel-blue hints. I always thought the star system was meant for the US market only, probably not. Nice short velour and thick felt

Very nice Borsalino Panos. Plumbeo is an adjective to indicate something that has the color of lead. The phrase "Cielo plumbeo" is often used in Italian. Fabrizi is a shop in Rome, a tourist city par excellence and "Leo" was a sub-brand used to give "uniqueness" to the Borsalinos sold there. Most went into the hands of tourists, you can see how many are on the American market, therefore there are profusion of "Mink - Visone" and stars to show quality

 

[steur]

Brent informed me about that one quite some time ago and curiosity got the best of me
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View attachment 478214 Color of the lead (Pb). In person it has some dark steel-blue hints. I always thought the star system was meant for the US market only, probably not. Nice short velour and thick felt

Gorgeous looking hat, Panos. Looks like an MGL but with a different liner.

 

[Dr.John]

Looking for some help identifying the age of a Borsalino I inherited. My grandmother told me it was purchased in about 1948. Some folks on a different thread recommended I bring it to the experts. Can someone give me some direction on the age of this hat?

 

[alanfgag]

The meat of the information to dating a Borsalino label would be underneath the paper tape securing the liner in place - but don't try to remove. The square cut end by the size stamp speaks to a decade or more later than 1948. A lovely inheritance... enjoy it!

 

[steur]

Looking for some help identifying the age of a Borsalino I inherited. My grandmother told me it was purchased in about 1948. Some folks on a different thread recommended I bring it to the experts. Can someone give me some direction on the age of this hat?

It's a bit later than that. As far as we know this type of label was used from about 1954 until 1960 and we haven't seen the ta/ludora model with any other label. The full colour name is "avorio" (ivory).

 

[Daniele Tanto]

One of the hats bought in 2022 left waiting to be shown to fellow FL.

It is a particular hat for the Italian market due to its shape and colour

Borsalino Qualità Extra Superiore size 6 French point, 59 cm. EU or 7 3/8 in US.

The shape is that of a lobbia or homburg with the brims curled and short, without a ribbon to edge them. What is called Lord hat often here. The ribbon is the same color as the felt.

Gulaela is the type in the Borsalino denomination, Cafro is the color indicated, but it is particularly reddish compared to a Borsalino of the same color that I wore a few weeks ago. Borsalino mysteries.

The hat is very light and above all particularly well preserved.

Measurements are: the brim at 5cm, the ribbon at 4cm and the open crown at 13.5cm.
This is one of my favorites in the Borsalino collection, without a doubt

 

[steur]

One of the hats bought in 2022 left waiting to be shown to fellow FL.

It is a particular hat for the Italian market due to its shape and colour

Borsalino Qualità Extra Superiore size 6 French point, 59 cm. EU or 7 3/8 in US.

The shape is that of a lobbia or homburg with the brims curled and short, without a ribbon to edge them. What is called Lord hat often here. The ribbon is the same color as the felt.

Gulaela is the type in the Borsalino denomination, Cafro is the color indicated, but it is particularly reddish compared to a Borsalino of the same color that I wore a few weeks ago. Borsalino mysteries.

The hat is very light and above all particularly well preserved.

Measurements are: the brim at 5cm, the ribbon at 4cm and the open crown at 13.5cm.
This is one of my favorites in the Borsalino collection, without a doubt

I think it's a beauty and I like the reddish tones in the colour. Gulaela is a homburg model; I wonder if it ever had a brim binding.

 

[Steve1857]

Borsalino Dellasca. The third of my three Borsalino family hats from mid December.



11.5cm crown up to the front crease.

6cm overwelt brim


2.2cm grosgrain ribbon in the same colour, Pineta (forest pine).



The paper label puts this one at somewhere between 1936 to 1953 (thanks to Stefan's impressive research)

I'm thinking 1940s, either side of WWII.


It's a snug 5 1/2 punti with a very nice reeded dapple sweatband. Seems to have lost its sweatband bow, though.

Bindslev was a well respected furrier in Odense, Denmark's 3rd largest town.

 

[Mean Eyed Matt]

One of the hats bought in 2022 left waiting to be shown to fellow FL.

It is a particular hat for the Italian market due to its shape and colour

Borsalino Qualità Extra Superiore size 6 French point, 59 cm. EU or 7 3/8 in US.

The shape is that of a lobbia or homburg with the brims curled and short, without a ribbon to edge them. What is called Lord hat often here. The ribbon is the same color as the felt.

Gulaela is the type in the Borsalino denomination, Cafro is the color indicated, but it is particularly reddish compared to a Borsalino of the same color that I wore a few weeks ago. Borsalino mysteries.

The hat is very light and above all particularly well preserved.

Measurements are: the brim at 5cm, the ribbon at 4cm and the open crown at 13.5cm.
This is one of my favorites in the Borsalino collection, without a doubt

Borsalino Dellasca. The third of my three Borsalino family hats from mid December.

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11.5cm crown up to the front crease.

6cm overwelt brim

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2.2cm grosgrain ribbon in the same colour, Pineta (forest pine).

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The paper label puts this one at somewhere between 1936 to 1953 (thanks to Stefan's impressive research)

I'm thinking 1940s, either side of WWII.

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It's a snug 5 1/2 punti with a very nice reeded dapple sweatband. Seems to have lost its sweatband bow, though.

Bindslev was a well respected furrier in Odense, Denmark's 3rd largest town.

Both colours are stunning: really, really beautiful!

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

One of the hats bought in 2022 left waiting to be shown to fellow FL.

It is a particular hat for the Italian market due to its shape and colour

Borsalino Qualità Extra Superiore size 6 French point, 59 cm. EU or 7 3/8 in US.

The shape is that of a lobbia or homburg with the brims curled and short, without a ribbon to edge them. What is called Lord hat often here. The ribbon is the same color as the felt.

Gulaela is the type in the Borsalino denomination, Cafro is the color indicated, but it is particularly reddish compared to a Borsalino of the same color that I wore a few weeks ago. Borsalino mysteries.

The hat is very light and above all particularly well preserved.

Measurements are: the brim at 5cm, the ribbon at 4cm and the open crown at 13.5cm.
This is one of my favorites in the Borsalino collection, without a doubt

Stunning color
Beautiful hat