Taubers compared to Ralphs-Pugh Jackets

[jonbuilder]

First off I understand Terry is working on a history of Ralphs-Pugh jackets. I am highly waiting in anticipation for its debut. I have just recently became away of the Ralphs-Pugh. I notice similarities with Ralphs-Pugh jackets, both making police uniform jackets and both operating out of San Francisco, my home town area.
Has anyone handled both Ralphs-Pugh and Taubers jackets and willing to highlight similarities and differences?

 

[handymike]

Ralphs-pugh is my favorite vintage maker of that time! All of the SF based jacketmakers of the 30s-40s had similar designs/ touches. R-P was short lived as a jacket maker as their primary focus of business was/ is conveyer belts.

 

[stmike]

There's one on eBay now that looks to be in exceptional condition in Great Britain. Very nice police jacket.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-1940s-...916734?hash=item3667746abe:g:9NUAAOSw3WhfIOt-

 

[handymike]

Mine must be an early version as it doesn't have the CHP styling- no laces or gunbelt loops- just a badge-holder on one of their regular models.

 

[jonbuilder]

Mine must be an early version as it doesn't have the CHP styling- no laces or gunbelt loops- just a badge-holder on one of their regular models.
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That would be a die for jacket in my size

 

[technovox]

Mine must be an early version as it doesn't have the CHP styling- no laces or gunbelt loops- just a badge-holder on one of their regular models.
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Nice one! Looks familiar ;-)

 

[JMax]

There's one on eBay now that looks to be in exceptional condition in Great Britain. Very nice police jacket.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-1940s-...916734?hash=item3667746abe:g:9NUAAOSw3WhfIOt-

Here is another... Etsy. Been in my favorites for a long time.

https://etsy.me/2Z305GZ

 

[tmitchell59]

First off I understand Terry is working on a history of Ralphs-Pugh jackets. I am highly waiting in anticipation for its debut. I have just recently became away of the Ralphs-Pugh. I notice similarities with Ralphs-Pugh jackets, both making police uniform jackets and both operating out of San Francisco, my home town area.
Has anyone handled both Ralphs-Pugh and Taubers jackets and willing to highlight similarities and differences?

An interesting Question. I have ideas, opinions, speculation but few facts. The jackets have to tell the story as information on the makers is limited.

Taubers and RP started producing jackets around 1940 in San Francisco. Looks like RP jackets vanished around 1950. Taubers went on into the early 80s? Both focused on Police/Uniform jackets and Motorcycle jackets. Civilian jackets by either maker are scarce. I've got images of interesting RP Sports jackets, but not of Taubers Sport jackets. I do own a Taubers Trucker and 40s Taubers half-belt, but both have a MC feel/flavor.

My RP visual history has around 20 jackets, three I own. I have one catalog image from the company, but no other information to date. I've been able to date the jacket production from c.1940-c.1950. I've collected several labels which I believe represent their years of production. I'm hoping the RP company can provide more information.

I think RP style has more in common with other Bay Area makers than Taubers.

Hopefully we can shed light on the Bay area makers.

 

[ton312]

Here is another... Etsy. Been in my favorites for a long time.

https://etsy.me/2Z305GZ

LOL. Mine too. Has to stay there. It’s better sized for a child.

 

[Wildhorses]

A few months ago, I found this Ralphs Pugh on Grailed. The asked price was funny and nobody did look further (between $3000 and $6000). But I was patient and decided to contact the seller. I won it for a few hundred dollars, and no import tax. Here are some pics of the sale page, I will post some pics of the jacket, that I did condition.

 

[Wildhorses]

The sherling lining was dead, and I did replace it myself with an old shirt. There is no perfection in this work, I just like doing things myself without spending much money. Some pics of the RP now :

 

[Wildhorses]

Some more pics

 

[JMax]

Incredible jacket and I really like the new lining. Cool that it is a DIY. That grain is insane.

 

[handymike]

Amazing! incredible! Love Love Love!

 

[Wildhorses]

This jacket has not been worn a lot. The thing is... how long will it be wearable, before I see some undone stitching. Wearing a 75 old jacket is not like wearing a new one, we all know. Quick fit pics. Bad quality phone pics...

 

[JMax]

This jacket has not been worn a lot. The thing is... how long will it be wearable, before I see some undone stitching. Wearing a 75 old jacket is not like wearing a new one, we all know. Quick fit pics. Bad quality phone pics...
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I’d be incredibly happy with that fit on a true vintage jacket!! Heck, even on a newer jacket.

That jacket, if the time comes, will be worth having someone like Dena restitch entirely.

 

[handymike]

My stitching all blew out, but my jacket has had many lifetimes over. Yours is a real peach!

 

[Marc mndt]

This jacket has not been worn a lot. The thing is... how long will it be wearable, before I see some undone stitching. Wearing a 75 old jacket is not like wearing a new one, we all know. Quick fit pics. Bad quality phone pics...
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Wow, what an amazing jacket. The 75 years don't mean anything. If the seams are strong, they're strong. I own a couple of jackets from the 40s and 50s which feel like they were made yesterday. I wear them daily and there's no reason not to.

 

[Will Zach]

Some more pics
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Incredible jacket, and I love the idea of a DYI relining job. It somehow fits with the age of the jacket and pays homage to the old methods of keeping old articles of clothing wearable. Totally wabi-sabi.

 

[Wildhorses]

Wow, what an amazing jacket. The 75 years don't mean anything. If the seams are strong, they're strong. I own a couple of jackets from the 40s and 50s which feel like they were made yesterday. I wear them daily and there's no reason not to.

Time will tell. I'll be careful anyway.