Schott Cafe Racer: 141 vs 641HH Fit and Sizing. My lesson from a disastrous purchase. Selling this cheap.

[dannyg99]

Hi, I'm a new member here, a 32-year old man from Indonesia.

I'm an Asian man of 172cm (5'8"); 66kgs (145.5lbs); and my chest size/pit-to-pit measurement is +/-94 cm (36-37 inches).

I'm just recently into motorcycle custom culture hobby, and found the importance of having a good quality leather jacket as one of the essentials. After saving for quite some time, I wanted to buy a quality leather jacket from Schott. There isn't any Schott store in Indonesia, but there's a local thriftstore company called @RedwingJ3 that provide services to merchandises overseas with offers of reduced tax prices etc.

I decided to use their services to buy my first Schott jacket.. Schott 141 Cafe Racer type leather jacket.. About the sizing, I did the dumbest thing, I went to that thriftstore company which also sells old/used line Perfecto Schott Jackets in SIZE 38 (it fits perfectly) and believed all the schott jackets will have the same sizes according to its tags.

Months and months I waited, after the jacket finally comes.. The sizing was awful and very disappointing... (you can even see my dissapointed look in the photo below) It didnt land well on my shoulders, and feels roomy unlike my expectations. The thriftstore company also didn't include the purchasing receipts and steer clear of any involvement after the purchase... So I'm left with a regretable oversized leather jacket as you can see in this picture with no hope of any return.

Lesson learned, it was my fault to order a Size 38 Schott 141 without a deep and careful studies of its sizing.. This jacket quality is awesome beyond what I've ever seen before, but the baggy size for my body has made it useless for me. I'm thinking of selling my brand new 141 jacket cheap.. maybe around 700 USD or below, as a damage control for my loss, exclude the shipping/tax prices (I live in Java, Indonesia).

Just now, a friend of mine are visiting NYC, and he offered to buy me another leather jacket, and I'm thinking of Schott 641HH (horsehide leather) with a slimmer fit... This time I've measured my chest/pit-to-pit size carefully, and also tried to check my measurements in Schott's Website.. I even emailed them about sizing in 641HH... All their responses are the same.. I should buy 641HH also in size 38.. (order one size larger)

Meanwhile, some commenters in some forums, also stated that they dont upsize their jacket.. So how do you guys think? Should I buy the 641HH in size 38 as the website recommends? Or keep it in my 141 true size --> 36 ? I am very anxious and worried of getting another useless oversized jacket...

Any help with answers are very much appreciated, you can also contact me if you're interested with my new 141 Jacket... We can talk discount prices. I just wanna get rid of this jacket with minimised loss... The sight of this 141 in my wardrobe even irritates me.

Thank you the post. Very helpful for someone considering these jackets

 

[Zeuloa]

Hi, not sure if this is too late to help you or not but I’ll share my experience with Schott 641 HH. I wear a size 42 in the 642HH, I’m tall and slender, arms are slightly longer so the sleeves would be better if they were at least 1/2 inch longer. When I contacted Schott about maybe getting the 141 they recommended I get a size 40 because the fit is different than the 641 HH. Long story short I ended up going with the 688 and love it!
I do ride and as an owner of the 641HH buying the size that their sizing chart recommend for my body stats is a good fit for riding.

I know this is a veeeery old threat but here’s to hoping for a response as I’m considering these 2 jackets.

Which do you like better and how does fit compare between the 688 and 641HH?

Additionally, some photos would be great if you still have them!

Thanks!