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Rmccamey

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Mean Eyed Matt

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Finally arrived after a two month wait where the delivery company said it was lost.

Hückel Flexible semi stiff felt Bowler ca. early to mid 1930s if I understand the paper label.
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Great old Melone, Steve - well worth the wait:
It seems to be in wonderful, unused condition!
 

Daniele Tanto

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To honor the thread dedicated to the state of health of the market for old or vintage hats, whatever you prefer, I am showing you an interesting find. They were found inside a house, bought complete with furniture and everything a house could hold and put up for sale as a lot. I bought them because from the slightly bizarre photos they showed signs of interest. They are hats, inventories, bought by the owner of the house for unknown reasons. They come from hat shops in small towns or villages in a large rural area south of the city of Mantua. They are hats built between the 1920s and 1960s and reflect the taste of the Italian province. They will be described and photographed individually, but I wanted to share with you what the old vintage hat market offers here in Italy from time to time.
I begin the description by saying "blessed are those who have small sizes"
The hats vary from size 54 (6 3/4) cm. up to a maximum of 58 cm. (7 1/4)
Borslino tre 54.jpg

Let's start with three gems size 54 (6 3/4) lucky the wearer. Two Borsalino "misto Volga" type "Celesti" and a "Pomice" directly from the Thirthies.
There is also a black hat, beautiful. now on the head strecther to resume its appearance, same size, marked "Record".
Others are 54-55 cm. (6 7/8) mostly Sixties style with fur felt, not photographed and no 56 (7) size in the lot
Then a good dose of 57 cm. (7 1/8) of various hats producers
Vari 57 1.jpg

Fron left: Borsalino, Panizza, La Famigliare velour, Cambiaghi, Smart.
Vari 37 2.jpg

others hats in size 57 (7 1/8), from right: Cappellificio Cervo, and two different "Gran Marca"
Last picture for the "big ones" of the lot or the size 58 cm. (7 1/4)
Vari 58 1.jpg

From left: La Famigliare velour, Barbisio, Flash, Barbisio, the last is called "Velour" but it is without lining.
What makes the lot interesting is the presence of second-tier Italian hat producers, thus being able to compare hats of high price and construction with those more affordable and suitable for less well-off people, when the hat was an indispensable accessory.
As you can see the tastes in countries only 10 kilometers away varied and these were the hats in Italy on the heads of the peasants also of the landowners
 

Rmccamey

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Danielle and Dave, you guys are on a roll!

To honor the thread dedicated to the state of health of the market for old or vintage hats, whatever you prefer, I am showing you an interesting find. They were found inside a house, bought complete with furniture and everything a house could hold and put up for sale as a lot. I bought them because from the slightly bizarre photos they showed signs of interest. They are hats, inventories, bought by the owner of the house for unknown reasons. They come from hat shops in small towns or villages in a large rural area south of the city of Mantua. They are hats built between the 1920s and 1960s and reflect the taste of the Italian province. They will be described and photographed individually, but I wanted to share with you what the old vintage hat market offers here in Italy from time to time.
I begin the description by saying "blessed are those who have small sizes"
The hats vary from size 54 (6 3/4) cm. up to a maximum of 58 cm. (7 1/4)
View attachment 359839
Let's start with three gems size 54 (6 3/4) lucky the wearer. Two Borsalino "misto Volga" type "Celesti" and a "Pomice" directly from the Thirthies.
There is also a black hat, beautiful. now on the head strecther to resume its appearance, same size, marked "Record".
Others are 54-55 cm. (6 7/8) mostly Sixties style with fur felt, not photographed and no 56 (7) size in the lot
Then a good dose of 57 cm. (7 1/8) of various hats producers
View attachment 359841
Fron left: Borsalino, Panizza, La Famigliare velour, Cambiaghi, Smart.
View attachment 359842
others hats in size 57 (7 1/8), from right: Cappellificio Cervo, and two different "Gran Marca"
Last picture for the "big ones" of the lot or the size 58 cm. (7 1/4)
View attachment 359843
From left: La Famigliare velour, Barbisio, Flash, Barbisio, the last is called "Velour" but it is without lining.
What makes the lot interesting is the presence of second-tier Italian hat producers, thus being able to compare hats of high price and construction with those more affordable and suitable for less well-off people, when the hat was an indispensable accessory.
As you can see the tastes in countries only 10 kilometers away varied and these were the hats in Italy on the heads of the peasants also of the landowners

 
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To honor the thread dedicated to the state of health of the market for old or vintage hats, whatever you prefer, I am showing you an interesting find. They were found inside a house, bought complete with furniture and everything a house could hold and put up for sale as a lot. I bought them because from the slightly bizarre photos they showed signs of interest. They are hats, inventories, bought by the owner of the house for unknown reasons. They come from hat shops in small towns or villages in a large rural area south of the city of Mantua. They are hats built between the 1920s and 1960s and reflect the taste of the Italian province. They will be described and photographed individually, but I wanted to share with you what the old vintage hat market offers here in Italy from time to time.
I begin the description by saying "blessed are those who have small sizes"
The hats vary from size 54 (6 3/4) cm. up to a maximum of 58 cm. (7 1/4)
View attachment 359839
Let's start with three gems size 54 (6 3/4) lucky the wearer. Two Borsalino "misto Volga" type "Celesti" and a "Pomice" directly from the Thirthies.
There is also a black hat, beautiful. now on the head strecther to resume its appearance, same size, marked "Record".
Others are 54-55 cm. (6 7/8) mostly Sixties style with fur felt, not photographed and no 56 (7) size in the lot
Then a good dose of 57 cm. (7 1/8) of various hats producers
View attachment 359841
Fron left: Borsalino, Panizza, La Famigliare velour, Cambiaghi, Smart.
View attachment 359842
others hats in size 57 (7 1/8), from right: Cappellificio Cervo, and two different "Gran Marca"
Last picture for the "big ones" of the lot or the size 58 cm. (7 1/4)
View attachment 359843
From left: La Famigliare velour, Barbisio, Flash, Barbisio, the last is called "Velour" but it is without lining.
What makes the lot interesting is the presence of second-tier Italian hat producers, thus being able to compare hats of high price and construction with those more affordable and suitable for less well-off people, when the hat was an indispensable accessory.
As you can see the tastes in countries only 10 kilometers away varied and these were the hats in Italy on the heads of the peasants also of the landowners
Thank you for sharing Daniele
 
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To honor the thread dedicated to the state of health of the market for old or vintage hats, whatever you prefer, I am showing you an interesting find. They were found inside a house, bought complete with furniture and everything a house could hold and put up for sale as a lot. I bought them because from the slightly bizarre photos they showed signs of interest. They are hats, inventories, bought by the owner of the house for unknown reasons. They come from hat shops in small towns or villages in a large rural area south of the city of Mantua. They are hats built between the 1920s and 1960s and reflect the taste of the Italian province. They will be described and photographed individually, but I wanted to share with you what the old vintage hat market offers here in Italy from time to time.
I begin the description by saying "blessed are those who have small sizes"
The hats vary from size 54 (6 3/4) cm. up to a maximum of 58 cm. (7 1/4)
View attachment 359839
Let's start with three gems size 54 (6 3/4) lucky the wearer. Two Borsalino "misto Volga" type "Celesti" and a "Pomice" directly from the Thirthies.
There is also a black hat, beautiful. now on the head strecther to resume its appearance, same size, marked "Record".
Others are 54-55 cm. (6 7/8) mostly Sixties style with fur felt, not photographed and no 56 (7) size in the lot
Then a good dose of 57 cm. (7 1/8) of various hats producers
View attachment 359841
Fron left: Borsalino, Panizza, La Famigliare velour, Cambiaghi, Smart.
View attachment 359842
others hats in size 57 (7 1/8), from right: Cappellificio Cervo, and two different "Gran Marca"
Last picture for the "big ones" of the lot or the size 58 cm. (7 1/4)
View attachment 359843
From left: La Famigliare velour, Barbisio, Flash, Barbisio, the last is called "Velour" but it is without lining.
What makes the lot interesting is the presence of second-tier Italian hat producers, thus being able to compare hats of high price and construction with those more affordable and suitable for less well-off people, when the hat was an indispensable accessory.
As you can see the tastes in countries only 10 kilometers away varied and these were the hats in Italy on the heads of the peasants also of the landowners
Daniele, Great find! Congrats!
 
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Finally arrived after a two month wait where the delivery company said it was lost.

Hückel Flexible semi stiff felt Bowler ca. early to mid 1930s if I understand the paper label.
View attachment 359724 View attachment 359725 View attachment 359724 View attachment 359729 View attachment 359724 View attachment 359726 View attachment 359728 View attachment 359730 View attachment 359731 View attachment 359732
Steve, Super! Looks to be in great condition. Also a 1/4 Point size.
 
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Thanks Steve. It is indeed in very good condition.
The 1/4 point size is unusual for punti, but perhaps not so unusual for that time frame. Can you enlighten me?
Steve, You see 1/4 Point size used for pre WWII German and Austrian Stiff Felt Hats and Silk Top Hats. I have never seen a 1/4 Point size used for a pre WWII German or Austrian Soft Felt Hat. My guess is they wanted more exacting sizing for Stiff Felts and Silk Top Hats. I am not sure if other European countries used 1/4 Point sizing but highly probably.

Here is a JHS Chart probably from the late 1800s to early 1900s with 1/4 Point Sizes. Not sure why 6 1/4 is 60cm. Misprint?

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Here is another one from Der Filzhut (The Felt Hat), seine Geschichte und seine Herstellung (Its History and Preparation). Hrsg.v.d. Deutschen Hutmacher-Zeitung (German Hat Maker Newspaper). 1936

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MichaelSeed

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Melbourne, Australia
To honor the thread dedicated to the state of health of the market for old or vintage hats, whatever you prefer, I am showing you an interesting find. They were found inside a house, bought complete with furniture and everything a house could hold and put up for sale as a lot. I bought them because from the slightly bizarre photos they showed signs of interest. They are hats, inventories, bought by the owner of the house for unknown reasons. They come from hat shops in small towns or villages in a large rural area south of the city of Mantua. They are hats built between the 1920s and 1960s and reflect the taste of the Italian province. They will be described and photographed individually, but I wanted to share with you what the old vintage hat market offers here in Italy from time to time.
I begin the description by saying "blessed are those who have small sizes"
The hats vary from size 54 (6 3/4) cm. up to a maximum of 58 cm. (7 1/4)
View attachment 359839
Let's start with three gems size 54 (6 3/4) lucky the wearer. Two Borsalino "misto Volga" type "Celesti" and a "Pomice" directly from the Thirthies.
There is also a black hat, beautiful. now on the head strecther to resume its appearance, same size, marked "Record".
Others are 54-55 cm. (6 7/8) mostly Sixties style with fur felt, not photographed and no 56 (7) size in the lot
Then a good dose of 57 cm. (7 1/8) of various hats producers
View attachment 359841
Fron left: Borsalino, Panizza, La Famigliare velour, Cambiaghi, Smart.
View attachment 359842
others hats in size 57 (7 1/8), from right: Cappellificio Cervo, and two different "Gran Marca"
Last picture for the "big ones" of the lot or the size 58 cm. (7 1/4)
View attachment 359843
From left: La Famigliare velour, Barbisio, Flash, Barbisio, the last is called "Velour" but it is without lining.
What makes the lot interesting is the presence of second-tier Italian hat producers, thus being able to compare hats of high price and construction with those more affordable and suitable for less well-off people, when the hat was an indispensable accessory.
As you can see the tastes in countries only 10 kilometers away varied and these were the hats in Italy on the heads of the peasants also of the landowners
People of the past must have had small heads. Everytime I come across a hat in an antique store they are always so tiny. Im conviced that every person born before 1970 was miniature. Awesome find though, almost like time traveling. Really cool.
 

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