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19,001
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Central California
The second addition is one I just had to have. What can you do? Negretti bowler. Negretti is a sheep-variety of the distant past, so a woolfelt. Steve (Mayserwegener) has one too (of course he does). Size 57 with the brim at 5cm and the crown at 12 cm. I comment now and again that I would buy a hat for the liner alone, but I rarely do. This is one of those cases though. It's colour purple makes me wonder if this might have been the pope's leisure hat. When it arrived there was so little life in it left that for a moment I thought it was a homburg. Steam brought it back, but it's not nearly as stiff as other bowlers I have. Interesting is the designation "Real Russia" on the sweatband. I suppose this refers to the leather that was used, but I'm not sure. There's a tiny hole in the front brim and some damage to the brim binding. Very interesting if only for historic reasons. Very old, but I'm not certain which decade exactly. No label inside the hat unfortunately.

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Wow! That liner and sweat are both incredible! So vivid and in excellent vintage condition.
 
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18,401
Location
Nederland
Wonderful additions... great to see the detailed photos. I have a Dunlap duplex straw/felt hat and a Knox baku that also have the sizor sweatband feature. Some additional photos and information on the patent can be found here:

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/sizor-adjustable-headband-for-hats.76737/
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/two-tone-duplex-hats-popular-in-1915.59186/#post-1831614
Alan, thanks. That's some wonderful new information on that idea. I had not yet looked into the name. It wasn't much of a success I think and it looks to be a bit fiddly. Given its age I think I'd better leave it alone.
 
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18,401
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Nederland
That is a beautiful Panama Stefan. John did well with this one. It can be a dress straw for the summer. The one I have for you is more of a work hat. You have a garden? Right?
Very interesting old Bowler. Love that liner, would be hard to pass up. Cool brand name.
Mike, thank you. It's a lovely panama. Won't be a working hat though, because my garden can be regarded only as an oversized flower pot. As for the bowler: it was indeed the liner (and the sweatband detail) that caught my eye. I did look into the "real russia" designation. This would interest you: apparently the term "real russia" or "russia leather" refers to the tanning process for the leather, where the use of tanning fluids obtained from birchbark would give the leather a certain reddish colour. The use of birch for tanning originated from Russia. It's a very old term.
Negretti is a variety of merino sheep. Here's a picture of some sheep. The negretti is the one in the lower left.

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moehawk

I'll Lock Up
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5,836
Location
Northern California
Any chance you could take another picture with any numbers stamped on it readable? I can't quite make that one out. I'm working on something that will help out with Adam hat dating. And no the number stamped is not the year haha.
Sorry, but that's the best shot I can get. The reed tape doesn't want to move, and I don't want yo risk damaging it by forcing it.
 
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19,001
Location
Central California
Rocky Mountain Hatters of Grand Junction, Colorado.

This is the smallest 7 3/4 I've ever had on my head. I can often fit a 7 5/8 and I almost always fit a 7 5/8 long oval but this 7 3/4 long oval has been on my hat stretcher and then spent the night on my block (just sizing the sweat). I can wear it now, but it will take more work, water, and steam to get the fit right.

The good news is that he felt is very nice and the materials and construction are as good as I had hoped.

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The mottling on the felt is just a trick of the camera.


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Desert dog

My Mail is Forwarded Here
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3,291
Location
California
Nothing special. The Churchill western came in, hot off the trail of the Urban Cowboy. Felt is nice enough and the sweat sucks. Glued in liner. Gas bath and opened it up. Now to decide what shape to put on it. Paper tag called it a Gila. $42.00. 3 1/4" x 6".
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Came with this bird attached which I killed straightaway. Sorry, Bob it seemed aggressive.
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I agree with Jack, I like the dimensions. I am looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

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Doctor Jones

Familiar Face
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97
Location
Orange County California
I got this hat a month or so back, fairly cheaply on Ebay, but never wore it because the brim was all ahoo. I think it had been improperly stored, the brim was flat but at an angle, higher on one side and sloping down on the other side. (Not back to front, that would make more sense.)

Lucky for me (new to hats and totally ignorant) there's a local vintage clothing store called "Joyride" which does hat blocking. They flanged the brim just how I wanted it. I love everything about it, my first hat hat since 1975.

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19,409
Location
Funkytown, USA
I got this hat a month or so back, fairly cheaply on Ebay, but never wore it because the brim was all ahoo. I think it had been improperly stored, the brim was flat but at an angle, higher on one side and sloping down on the other side. (Not back to front, that would make more sense.)

Lucky for me (new to hats and totally ignorant) there's a local vintage clothing store called "Joyride" which does hat blocking. They flanged the brim just how I wanted it. I love everything about it, my first hat hat since 1975.

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Nice looking. What is it?
 

Scuttle

One of the Regulars
Messages
114
I got this hat a month or so back, fairly cheaply on Ebay, but never wore it because the brim was all ahoo. I think it had been improperly stored, the brim was flat but at an angle, higher on one side and sloping down on the other side. (Not back to front, that would make more sense.)

Lucky for me (new to hats and totally ignorant) there's a local vintage clothing store called "Joyride" which does hat blocking. They flanged the brim just how I wanted it. I love everything about it, my first hat hat since 1975.

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A very good look for you. Kudos on knowing what you wanted from the hat, and for finding someone to execute it competently. :cool:

~ S.
 
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12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
Mike, thank you. It's a lovely panama. Won't be a working hat though, because my garden can be regarded only as an oversized flower pot. As for the bowler: it was indeed the liner (and the sweatband detail) that caught my eye. I did look into the "real russia" designation. This would interest you: apparently the term "real russia" or "russia leather" refers to the tanning process for the leather, where the use of tanning fluids obtained from birchbark would give the leather a certain reddish colour. The use of birch for tanning originated from Russia. It's a very old term.
Negretti is a variety of merino sheep. Here's a picture of some sheep. The negretti is the one in the lower left.

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That is so cool. Learn something new here everyday.
 
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12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
Rocky Mountain Hatters of Grand Junction, Colorado.

This is the smallest 7 3/4 I've ever had on my head. I can often fit a 7 5/8 and I almost always fit a 7 5/8 long oval but this 7 3/4 long oval has been on my hat stretcher and then spent the night on my block (just sizing the sweat). I can wear it now, but it will take more work, water, and steam to get the fit right.

The good news is that he felt is very nice and the materials and construction are as good as I had hoped.

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The mottling on the felt is just a trick of the camera.


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Nice one DH. You would think that the long oval would give you some extra room. Like the color.
 

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