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rlk

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Resistol Double-X Quality OPS Tag

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Bantam Man

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I think mid 40s is correct. To my eye, there's something odd about the sweatband stitching on that Week-Ender. I can't help but wonder if that sweatband wasn't removed at some point and put back in without the original (cord) reed. It's also odd the way they punctured the liner. I can understand perforating the felt. But doing that to the liner (especially one as light and porous and attractive as that one) is very strange.

Thanks for your thoughts, Zetwal.

Perhaps other Loungers have Week-enders too? It would be interesting to know whether these other hats have reeded sweats or not.

In fact, the unreeded sweat matches the suppleness of the felt very well. In this, the Week-ender resembles a Borsalino Qualita Speciale I have, which is also a lightweight hat.
 

Alan-Eby

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If I have a custom hat made should I tell the hatter how I wear my hat? I generally wear it pushed back on my head (unless its western) and I think it might change how the hat should be made? Since I'm new at this amazing new world, I'm still learning a lot so lemme know if I'm over thinking this.
I have done a couple hat conversions now, western to fedora-styled and am getting addicted to messing about with all the different possibilities.
 

scottyrocks

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If I have a custom hat made should I tell the hatter how I wear my hat? I generally wear it pushed back on my head (unless its western) and I think it might change how the hat should be made? Since I'm new at this amazing new world, I'm still learning a lot so lemme know if I'm over thinking this.
I have done a couple hat conversions now, western to fedora-styled and am getting addicted to messing about with all the different possibilities.

Any info you give a good hatter is better than less info.
 

jlee562

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If I have a custom hat made should I tell the hatter how I wear my hat? I generally wear it pushed back on my head (unless its western) and I think it might change how the hat should be made? Since I'm new at this amazing new world, I'm still learning a lot so lemme know if I'm over thinking this.
I have done a couple hat conversions now, western to fedora-styled and am getting addicted to messing about with all the different possibilities.

Yes, measure your head wherever you want your hat to sit on your head.

Different hatters have different methods of ensuring a good fit. Art Fawcett will send you a plastic conformer that, well, conforms, to the exact shape of your head, and makes a sweatband from that. John Penman will take a make a paper crown based on your measurements and send it to you to ensure the measurement is correct. My next custom is coming from Black Sheep Hat Works, and Bob, the hatter there, sent me several sweatbands in that were incrementally different in size. I picked the one that fit best and dropped them back in the mail.
 

azhiker

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Well, these arent new, but they are new as fedoras! I had two western fedoras converted, so they are new to me!

Tan, 5X Stetson Wrangler..

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Next hat is a Stetson 30X, 100% beaver El Patron, both hats converted by Henry the Hatter in Detroit City!

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jimmy the lid

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JtL, that sweatband on the hat you point to is reeded. The reed is a flexible cord. That's what I'm talking about. Look closely. ;)

Z-man --

I think that we're all talkin' about the same thing. The difference is that I use the term "reeded sweat" to refer to something like this:

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I tend not to refer to the sweat as being "reeded" where either reed tape or reed cloth are used. I only use the term to describe a treatment that involves a physical reed. This approach is based upon some of Art Fawcett's feedback in this thread where he describes a treatment using reed tape (pictured below) as "non-reeded."

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So, that explains why I referred to the treatment in the Stetson Week-Ender as not having a reeded sweat. But, if I'm missing something here (and I may well be), I'm all ears! :)

Cheers,
JtL
 
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rlk

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I would only consider cases where the leather is edge sewn directly to the body with no continuous stiffener intervening as un(non)-reeded. The other examples have a filament of some kind in an oval to which the leather band is sewn- in one case only the cloth(casing) is sewn to the hat through the felt completely- in the other both reed and band are edge sewn. When there's a reed cloth or tape it encloses a "reed".
 
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