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And a rare riding derby with a short crown and vent holes. Very close to my size to boot.
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OTHER THAN eBAY Hats: Victories, Defeats, Gripes & Items of Interest
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And a rare riding derby with a short crown and vent holes. Very close to my size to boot.
AbbaDatDeHat
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Ouch.
They need to change their name to Badfaith.
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Could it be a clerical hat?
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That was my first thought, but the vents threw me. When I searched for something similar I did run across another low crown, vented hat that was in a museum and described as a "riding derby". I really don't know for sure. Wish I could find it in an old Stetson catalog.
The Wood Bros. could have sold a minister's hat.
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Rmccamey
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My heart is breaking!!!
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Once it molts I think there’s a nice hat here:
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Bill Hughes
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I was following this one but the brim is just too narrow for me.
Rmccamey
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I’m with you preferring the wider brims. I like the style of Playboy but the wider brimmed 1940s hats are so much more my style.
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It’s worse than I thought.
It does make it easy to check the tags:
Of course it doesn’t fit.
And I can steam the crown back open without fear of shrinking the sweat.
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I think it was two pieces, but I'll defer the the bowler/derby experts on how these things were made. If it fit me I might consider having a duplex made (with a Panama crown).
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It’s worse than I thought.
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It does make it easy to check the tags:
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Of course it doesn’t fit.
And I can steam the crown back open without fear of shrinking the sweat.
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Ugh.
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A pair of Marathon…. Gotta be careful. They are starting to multiply
and a cool hatbox to boot
and a cool hatbox to boot
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A pair of Marathon…. Gotta be careful. They are starting to multiply
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and a cool hatbox to boot
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Nice, Joe! I was hoping those would show up here. Multiplying hats is a phenomenon with no solution.
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Thanks Brent. Looking forward to their arrival…. Definitely something different. Had them on my radar and Bob sending me a link as well confirmed for me to dig in on these.
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DEFEAT.
As soon as I touched it I knew something wasn’t right. The felt is rough and felt like wool. I’ve never had a Stetson Clear Nutria before so I thought maybe this was how the felt is. No labels under the sweatband and the sweatband has been re-sewn and it’s about 45 degrees off so the ribbon that belongs at the seam is on the side of the hat. The gap in the sweatband looks to be caused by using a sweatband that is too small for the current hat size.
My working hypothesis is someone salvaged a sweatband from a Stetson Clear Nutria and crudely sewed in into this current hat of unknown make or material. Bummer.
As soon as I touched it I knew something wasn’t right. The felt is rough and felt like wool. I’ve never had a Stetson Clear Nutria before so I thought maybe this was how the felt is. No labels under the sweatband and the sweatband has been re-sewn and it’s about 45 degrees off so the ribbon that belongs at the seam is on the side of the hat. The gap in the sweatband looks to be caused by using a sweatband that is too small for the current hat size.
My working hypothesis is someone salvaged a sweatband from a Stetson Clear Nutria and crudely sewed in into this current hat of unknown make or material. Bummer.
