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Koop- When my Mom was alive I took her to her many doctor appointments with the obvious long waits. Invariably people, mostly women- no offense- would no doubt be bored and ring up their friends and have rambling stream of consciousness conversations in elevated tones. And though every office waiting room had the "no cell phone" symbols or written word to turn them off no one at the offices would challange them to shut the flock up!:rage: BTW- My dirty looks were ignored.