Morning dress

[Lokar]

(This one's titled "Tea Time at Lord's". Does anyone have any idea what that is referring to?)

That'll be Lord's Cricket Ground.

 

[Midnight Blue]

That'll be Lord's Cricket Ground.

Thank you. I knew one of my fellow Loungers would come through for me.

 

[Lokar]

Thank you. I knew one of my fellow Loungers would come through for me.

No problem. I think wanting to have tea at Lord's is something almost all British (especially English) schoolboys fantasize about at some point, but outside of the UK I've never heard it mentioned.

 

[John in Covina]

April 1934

I like that vest.(on the left side)

 

[avedwards]

No problem. I think wanting to have tea at Lord's is something almost all British (especially English) schoolboys fantasize about at some point, but outside of the UK I've never heard it mentioned.

Unfortunately morning dress is no longer worn at Lords. The only sort of dress code they have is in the Pavillion which simply requires a jacket and tie to be worn.

 

[Lokar]

Unfortunately morning dress is no longer worn at Lords. The only sort of dress code they have is in the Pavillion which simply requires a jacket and tie to be worn.

Sadly true. Still, at least there's cricket!

 

[avedwards]

Sadly true. Still, at least there's cricket!

At least there is, and it appears to be popular as there's quite a long waiting list to become a member at Lords.

 

[AntonAAK]

Unfortunately morning dress is no longer worn at Lords. The only sort of dress code they have is in the Pavillion which simply requires a jacket and tie to be worn.

Not for much longer it seems...

http://thechap.net/content/section_oldnews/cricket.html

 

[Midnight Blue]

Alas, we sartorialists are a dying breed. Soon everyone will be reduced to pajama bottoms, flip-flops and undershirts. (Actually, students on the nearby university campus are already starting to sport this look.)

 

[Tiller]

Alas, we sartorialists are a dying breed. Soon everyone will be reduced to pajama bottoms, flip-flops and undershirts. (Actually, students on the nearby university campus are already starting to sport this look.)

A powerful king once asked assembled wise men to create a ring that will make him happy when he is sad, and vice versa. After deliberation the sages hand him a simple ring with the words "This too will pass" etched on it, which has the desired effect.

Their is wisdom in such a tale old boy.

 

[pineconer]

anybody here a fan of the streseman? http://www.gentlemansgazette.com/stresemann/ I have a beautiful Moss bros example, which i have yet to find an occasion for, a shame as it is the best fitting set of clothes i own! black herringbone db jacket and waistcoat, with striped trousers, but most unusually the trousers are cuffed! indeed in the fred astaire film swing time, there is an extended joke where first fred, then cesar romero are convinced by an altered AA fashion plate that formal trousers now have cuffs that season, so i was surprised to find a pair that actually did! they are obviously an original feature as well, rather than a misguided later alteration. perhaps the semi-formal nature of the streseman make it acceptable - anyhow, its beautiful and a little different!

 

[Dr Kilroy]

Well, what you have is a stroller, because stresemann can have only single breasted jacket, while stroller can have both double and single breasted one. Cuffed striped trousers were in vogue in 30's for strollers, but they were forbidden for morning dress.
Actually, from British point of view, stroller (called black lounge) is just another way of wearing informal lounge suit (black lounge with striped trousers), so you can wear your stroller every time you wear a lounge suit.

Best regards, Dr

 

[SLOshank]

I think it's wonderful when male ushers wear morning dress on Christmas and Easter morning.

 

[SLOshank]

I live in a small town, extremely informal, and the only churches around here where they at least wear a suit are the small sized catholic churches of which I plan on attending one soon. I do intend on wearing morning dress to church not to show anybody how much money I have (I'm really quite poor in fact, living in an apartment) or anything like that, but to show respect to the Lord.

What would you say is the least formal morning dress you can wear? I don't plan on wearing a topper, but probably a gray homburg with a black band or a black bowler.

Around here people would wonder if you were taking part in a wedding after services. It you actually wore a hat -- especially a bowler, people might think your odd. In reality it's just because they don't know anything about the history of garb.

 

[SLOshank]

The most formal/conservative morning dress possible?

Could someone please take me through what would be the most formal and conservative example of morning dress in terms of shirt and neck treatment choices, colors, shoes, accessories, etc? Thank you.

 

[billyspew]

I would consider what David Furnish (on the right) is wearing to be very conservative.

 

[Dr Kilroy]

The most formal is: black morning coat with pointed lapels and one button, pleated cashmere striped trousers without turn-ups, black double-breasted waistcoat, white shirt with wing collar, silver formal cravat (ascot), black button boots (or laced galosh oxfords), black socks, silk top hat, lemon chamois gloves, cane, white linen pocket square, a white buttonhole (bouttonniere) and perhaps some spats. Spats and cane can be ommited.

Personally I recommend against black waistcoat on festive occasions (as David Beckham wore on the royal wedding) - these are for business and state ceremonies. For weddings, buff and dove are better.

Best regards, Dr

 

[SLOshank]

The most formal is: black morning coat with pointed lapels and one button, pleated cashmere striped trousers without turn-ups, black double-breasted waistcoat, white shirt with wing collar, silver formal cravat (ascot), black button boots (or laced galosh oxfords), black socks, silk top hat, lemon chamois gloves, cane, white linen pocket square, a white buttonhole (bouttonniere) and perhaps some spats. Spats and cane can be ommited.

Personally I recommend against black waistcoat on festive occasions (as David Beckham wore on the royal wedding) - these are for business and state ceremonies. For weddings, buff and dove are better.

Best regards, Dr

Thank you for your response. I am rather surprised a black waistcoast and a wing collar are the most formal. Same with the neck treatment -- I would have thought a bow tie or even a four-in-hand was more formal than an ascot. Thanks again for your input.

 

[Feraud]

Fyi- I did a housecleaning thread merge.
Carry on.

 

[Salieri]

The most formal is: black morning coat with pointed lapels and one button, pleated cashmere striped trousers without turn-ups, black double-breasted waistcoat, white shirt with wing collar, silver formal cravat (ascot), black button boots (or laced galosh oxfords), black socks, silk top hat, lemon chamois gloves, cane, white linen pocket square, a white buttonhole (bouttonniere) and perhaps some spats. Spats and cane can be ommited.

Personally I recommend against black waistcoat on festive occasions (as David Beckham wore on the royal wedding) - these are for business and state ceremonies. For weddings, buff and dove are better.

Best regards, Dr

Very good breakdown, although I would say that while almost certainly preferable, the double breasted black waistcoat isn't necessarily more formal or conservative than SB; also that grey socks rather than black would probably be more appropriate and, rather than silver, a cravat with simple repeating dark and light pattern like a stripe or polka dot on a greyish pallette. I assume you would only wear spats if you didn't the button boots / galosh oxfords that you recommended? ^_^

Thank you for your response. I am rather surprised a black waistcoast and a wing collar are the most formal. Same with the neck treatment -- I would have thought a bow tie or even a four-in-hand was more formal than an ascot. Thanks again for your input.

Is your idea of an ascot something that's usually paisly and worn inside the collar? Originally, an ascot tie was this: