Johnson leather Horween 6oz cxl overdye D-pocket and 4.5 -5oz CXL natural LeatherTogs project

[Robbie79]

Actually the thickest jacket ever made was by a German maker, http://www.wildfangdesign.de/
I have not verified it physically, but I don't see them lying about it, it was made for a collector if I remember correctly

@red devil You're right. I was in contact with Wildfangdesign about 4-5 years ago regarding 4mm thick deerskin which was no longer availble. They offered the 5mm thick (12-13oz) bullneck jacket instead...here are pics. Jacket was too expensive for me (3000€):

 

[Robbie79]

@Hh121 That's gonna be a massive jacket. 6oz leather and #14 main zipper! Crazy! Can't wait to see your review.

 

[Will Zach]

@red devil You're right. I was in contact with Wildfangdesign about 4-5 years ago regarding 4mm thick deerskin which was no longer availble. They offered the 5mm thick (12-13oz) bullneck jacket instead...here are pics. Jacket was too expensive for me (3000€):

Bull neck leather is supposed to be soft, but 5 mm... I don't know, man...btw, pics don't show for me.

 

[red devil]

@red devil You're right. I was in contact with Wildfangdesign about 4-5 years ago regarding 4mm thick deerskin which was no longer availble. They offered the 5mm thick (12-13oz) bullneck jacket instead...here are pics. Jacket was too expensive for me (3000€):

I got in touch with them, and was planning to go visit them as they have a lot of unique leathers in small quantities they collected over the years. This got put off because of the pandemic.
Wasn't sure what their price point was though, they are pricier than I thought

 

[Robbie79]

I got in touch with them, and was planning to go visit them as they have a lot of unique leathers in small quantities they collected over the years. This got put off because of the pandemic.
Wasn't sure what their price point was though, they are pricier than I thought

The reason for the high price was the time intensive work to make a jacket of such a thick hide. I guess other jackets are not as expensive as this one. I think they are worth a visit. The owners are very friendly and responsive.

 

[Marc mndt]

Jacket was too expensive for me (3000€):

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[KissMyMuscle]

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http://www.wildfangdesign.de/eng/index.php?mid=1&umid=10&id=18#18 This one. The 4mm deerskin pilot jacket.

 

[Robbie79]

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http://www.wildfangdesign.de/eng/index.php?mid=1&umid=10&id=18#18 This one. The 4mm deerskin pilot jacket.

@Marc mndt This is the 5mm bullneck

 

[red devil]

@Marc mndt This is the 5mm bullneck
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Impressive!

 

[navetsea]

if just to get that effect of chunky collar, just add piping around the edges
or a strip of thin leather to cover the edges like the edge finishing on the visor of some cap or leather bag.

 

[jonbuilder]

any guess as to the finished weight of your 6oz creation?

 

[jacketjunkie]

any guess as to the finished weight of your 6oz creation?

Considering a 3.5 oz jacket in size 40 is usually around 6 lbs part of which has to be attributed to hardware that is the same regardless of leather thickness, a 6 oz is probably 10 lbs-ish. In a larger size probably up to 12 or 13.

 

[Hh121]

Considering a 3.5 oz jacket in size 40 is usually around 6 lbs part of which has to be attributed to hardware that is the same regardless of leather thickness, a 6 oz is probably 10 lbs-ish. In a larger size probably up to 12 or 13.

Interesting topic to discuss, what's the weight of your JL

 

[jacketjunkie]

Interesting topic to discuss, what's the weight of your JL

This one
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/dark-brown-m200-johnson-leather-jacket-size-42.97826/
from the blackened brown supposedly Horween hide that I estimate at 4 oz is 3.2kg/ 7 lbs.

My heaviest jacket is the Aero 4 oz black steerhide Veste de Rallye at 3.8kg / 8.4 lbs but it is a long style.

The jacket with the thickest hide is unquestionably the zipsleeve HWM from crazier Aero times that comes in at 3,6kg / 7,9 lbs which is stupidly heavy considering it is a small jacket 62 cm backlength and no double crosszip front. I suspect Aero back then used to order the 2mm clx steerhide you find at many retailers. edit; If Alan makes your jacket from something similar which I assume he will, with the extra hardware, larger size and double front, it will surely be 10 lbs or even 11.

 

[Hh121]

This one
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/dark-brown-m200-johnson-leather-jacket-size-42.97826/
from the blackened brown supposedly Horween hide that I estimate at 4 oz is 3.2kg/ 7 lbs.

My heaviest jacket is the Aero 4 oz black steerhide Veste de Rallye at 3.8kg / 8.4 lbs but it is a long style.

The jacket with the thickest hide is unquestionably the zipsleeve HWM from crazier Aero times that comes in at 3,6kg / 7,9 lbs which is stupidly heavy considering it is a small jacket 62 cm backlength and no double crosszip front. I suspect Aero back then used to order the 2mm clx steerhide you find at many retailers. edit; If Alan makes your jacket from something similar which I assume he will, with the extra hardware, larger size and double front, it will surely be 10 lbs or even 11.

Some useful information here, thanks.

It is very heavy for size 40 weight at 7 lbs, my current JL weights only 7.2 lbs with longer length and extra panel, @ton312 said he asked 4.5 oz hide, sleeves feel thinner than front panel,something I want to avoid in this project. I guess your JL must be at least 4.5 oz? Of course the Aero highwayman is another story, 5 oz may e? I would say I will be little upset if my finished jacket weight under 10 lbs.

 

[AeroFan_07]

I would suggest obtaining a "RunFast" Weighted vest to wear over your new 6OZ creation to assist with break in. In fact, I suggest buying it ahead of time and weighting it to around 40 - 50 lbs so you can start preparing for wearing this jacket. I treid one of these out that a firefighter was traiing with at our gym last week, they really help your cardio workout!

 

[navetsea]

I just google weighted vest, wow that totally looks like suicide vest, is it even legal to wear one and run around with hoodies and mask on?

 

[Hh121]

 

[JMax]

That 14 is cool. Not too expensive either. Beautiful zip.

 

[Hh121]

That 14 is cool. Not too expensive either. Beautiful zip.

you were right,can't let those YKK ruin this jacket.