Italian brands hats

[Pellie]

Yes Marcel, it is a Panizza that changed name for exportation

Thanks!

 

[Pellie]

Albertini de Luxe in grey. Has some moth nibbles, but i knew that when i bought it. It's a nice hat overall!

 

[jeffgarf]

Albertini de Luxe in grey. Has some moth nibbles, but i knew that when i bought it. It's a nice hat overall! View attachment 791870 View attachment 791871 View attachment 791872 View attachment 791873 View attachment 791874 View attachment 791875 View attachment 791876 View attachment 791877 View attachment 791878

Do we know anything about that brand? I have seen that name used in other hats that, I believe, were made in Eastern Europe where the seller wants the buyer to believe the hat is actually Italian. That looks like the real deal though.

 

[Pellie]

Do we know anything about that brand? I have seen that name used in other hats that, I believe, were made in Eastern Europe where the seller wants the buyer to believe the hat is actually Italian. That looks like the real deal though.

This is what i know, Daniele once posted this:

C. Albertini & C., Intra, exhibited numerous fine fur-trimmed felt hats for men. The company, founded in 1817, specializes in the manufacture of very fine men's hats and felt for hatmaking. It was the first factory to introduce the mechanical manufacturing system to Italy."

And i know it was situated nearby the Panizza factory at Lake Maggiore. So as far as i know it's an original Italian brand.

I don't know how old this hat of mine is actually, but i think it's a younger one!

 

[jeffgarf]

Do we know anything about that brand? I have seen that name used in other hats that, I believe, were made in Eastern Europe where the seller wants the buyer to believe the hat is actually Italian. That looks like the real deal though.

An example of my previous comment, for the record.

 

[Pellie]

An example of my previous comment, for the record.
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That looks completely different indeed. I don't know if that's a real Albertini.

 

[jeffgarf]

That looks completely different indeed. I don't know if that's a real Albertini.

Oh, I know it's not! I believe it was made in Hungary in a factory called Sunemar.

 

[Pellie]

Oh, I know it's not! I believe it was made in Hungary in a factory called Sunemar.

I never heard of that actually

 

[jeffgarf]

I'm not sure what I have here, but I'll show this hat and share the information I have gleaned and see if anyone can assist with additional information. I do like this hat very much.

It is a very stiff, but clearly fine, felt, but obviously a fedora not a homburg or bowler). It was sold at Pietro Radiconcini & Figlio (the son, Alfredo, changed the store to his name fully by 1950) in Rome. This would place the timeline of the hat into the 40's, at the latest. The seller claims 1930's.

The crown tip lining completely covers the branding of the hat, but it seems to state "Scitvs" ("Scitus", as shown on the sweatband). The photos are below, including the sticker under the lining.


Any thoughts or ideas on the branding or timeline of this hat would be appreciated.

 

[steur]

Panizza ventilated hat in brown. Size 57 with the raw edge brim at 5cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Nice shape and finish to this one. No label inside this one.

 

[jeffgarf]

A brand new Guerra 1855 Castoro that I picked up new at a store going out of business. How these hats are not more popular here (or known at all in my community), is an absolute mystery. An absolutely beautiful black beaver felt in perfect modern styling, the feel of the fur is unrivaled. Not as moldable as a Borsalino, but I'm sure the quality is just as good.

 

[jeffgarf]

We have seen Brasiliano hats posted here over the years with everyone always wondering where they came from, if they are a brand, a sub-brand of a well known manufacturer or some other name passed around from various manufacturers.

I still do not have the actual answer, but this hat is clearly one made by Barbisio, a Classic, originally sold in Italy. Love the styling, the feel of the felt and, of course, she shark gill hatband.

 

[jeffgarf]

Part 2

 

[Pellie]

H.D. Stevens & Co. Not an english hat but it's italian. I know Stefan has one made by Borsalino, but i am not sure about this one. I think it's a Barbisio label. The felt is very soft and you don't need any steam to crease it. Very nice hat!

 

[Pellie]

This Barbisio i bought after a tip from Stefan @steur . Thanks Stefan. It's a very nice black homburg (is it a homburg??). Very glorious brim of 7cm in front and 6,5cm at the sides. Size 58 is a bit snug for me, so i will give it a stretch. I don't know the age but it's a very nice hat!!

 

[jeffgarf]

See my comment in the other thread about where and when that hat came from.

This Barbisio i bought after a tip from Stefan @steur . Thanks Stefan. It's a very nice black homburg (is it a homburg??). Very glorious brim of 7cm in front and 6,5cm at the sides. Size 58 is a bit snug for me, so i will give it a stretch. I don't know the age but it's a very nice hat!!
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[Blare]

This Barbisio i bought after a tip from Stefan @steur . Thanks Stefan. It's a very nice black homburg (is it a homburg??). Very glorious brim of 7cm in front and 6,5cm at the sides. Size 58 is a bit snug for me, so i will give it a stretch. I don't know the age but it's a very nice hat!!
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Sharp

 

[steur]

This Barbisio i bought after a tip from Stefan @steur . Thanks Stefan. It's a very nice black homburg (is it a homburg??). Very glorious brim of 7cm in front and 6,5cm at the sides. Size 58 is a bit snug for me, so i will give it a stretch. I don't know the age but it's a very nice hat!!
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Very cool hat, Marcel. With its generous proportions it sits a bit on the outer edge of what can still be called a homburg, but why not? Suits you well.

 

[Pellie]

Very cool hat, Marcel. With its generous proportions it sits a bit on the outer edge of what can still be called a homburg, but why not? Suits you well.

Thank you Stefan!!

 

[jeffgarf]

I have just received word that two hats, originally sold in Rome by F.lli Segatori, have arrived to my office. Although I will not be able to examine them for a couple more weeks yet, I am hoping that someone may be able to identify who may have manufactured these hats from the pictures posted below.

Thanks.