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German & Austrian Hutmachers

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J. Hückel´s Söhne, Metal Hat Plates, 7 cm x 2 cm, possibly 1920s.

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Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
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J. Hückel´s Söhne, Metal Hat Plates, 7 cm x 2 cm, possibly 1920s.

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Steve, all these hat plates, tags, metal and velvet and whatever of nature are wonderful to behold. Wish I could see them in situ.

Their designs are so on the cusp of art nouveau / art deco that they are definitely somewhere between 1910s to 1930s, so 1920s is definitely a possibility.

Great finds and well deserved in your collection.


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Messages
17,477
Location
Maryland
Steve, all these hat plates, tags, metal and velvet and whatever of nature are wonderful to behold. Wish I could see them in situ.

Their designs are so on the cusp of art nouveau / art deco that they are definitely somewhere between 1910s to 1930s, so 1920s is definitely a possibility.

Great finds and well deserved in your collection.


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Steve, Yes they are really great. Stefan deserves the credit for this find. It just turned out to be more pieces than expected.
 

Mean Eyed Matt

One Too Many
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1,142
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Germany
Some time ago some green trachten velour hats were shown here, which reminded me of mine:
F.G.M. should be Franz Gober Munich - like Marks Bayerland

Here's my FGM - "Sport Velour" - late 50s/early 60s? - size 57 (unfortunately a bit too small)
upbrim
36444705co.jpg

36444706zf.jpg

36444707op.jpg


brim down
36444709gj.jpg

36444708oo.jpg


inside
36444711ts.jpg

36444710ne.jpg


funny enough not from Bavaria but the opposite end of Germany:
Hut-Gundel in Bremerhaven - on the sweatband and the plastic stiffener
36444712ma.jpg

36444713xc.jpg


the label
36444714sl.jpg
 
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Mean Eyed Matt

One Too Many
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1,142
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Germany
Here the long promised Hückel (I'm sorry, Steve, for taking so long):
JHS Sigma - Seal Velour - grey with black ribbon - late 30s (?) - size 5 (57)
This is the best/finest velour I've ever held in my hands!

36445163be.jpg

36445167ij.jpg

36445165lr.jpg

36445169su.jpg


open crown
36445170om.jpg


inside: unusual lining in purple and white (unfortunately a bit worn out)
36445174mm.jpg

36445178pc.jpg


grey sweatband with golden print
36445177np.jpg


Hückel Logo on the lining
36445175as.jpg


Logo of the seller: "Ortmann - Spandau" (since 1920 part of Berlin)
(at least until 1941 at the same address)
36445176ct.jpg


labels (unfortunately, a piece of foam sticks over it, which cannot be removed without damaging the rest)
36445179ua.jpg

36445181do.jpg

36445180yw.jpg
 
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Messages
17,477
Location
Maryland
Here the long promised Hückel (I'm sorry, Steve, for taking so long):
JHS Sigma - Seal Velour - grey with black ribbon - late 30s (?) - size 5 (57)
This is the best/finest velour I've ever held in my hands!

36445163be.jpg

36445167ij.jpg

36445165lr.jpg

36445169su.jpg


open crown
36445170om.jpg


inside: unusual lining in purple and white (unfortunately a bit worn out)
36445174mm.jpg

36445178pc.jpg


grey sweatband with golden print
36445177np.jpg


Hückel Logo on the lining
36445175as.jpg


Logo of the seller: "Ortmann - Spandau" (since 1920 part of Berlin)
(at least until 1941 at the same address)
36445176ct.jpg


labels (unfortunately, a piece of foam sticks over it, which cannot be removed without damaging the rest)
36445179ua.jpg

36445181do.jpg

36445180yw.jpg
Matt, Thank you for posting this fantastic JHS "Sigma" "Seal Velour"! I don't believe I have seen this type of liner design from JHS. The Velour finish does look great, same with the condition. I think you are correct on the dating maybe a bit earlier in the 1930s.
 
Messages
17,477
Location
Maryland
Some time ago some green trachten velour hats were shown here, which reminded me of mine:
F.G.M. should be Franz Gober Munich - like Marks Bayerland


Here's my FGM - "Sport Velour" - late 50s/early 60s? - size 57 (unfortunately a bit too small)
upbrim
36444705co.jpg

36444706zf.jpg

36444707op.jpg


brim down
36444709gj.jpg

36444708oo.jpg


inside
36444711ts.jpg

36444710ne.jpg


funny enough not from Bavaria but the opposite end of Germany:
Hut-Gundel in Bremerhaven - on the sweatband and the plastic stiffener
36444712ma.jpg

36444713xc.jpg


the label
36444714sl.jpg
Matt, Super! Would be interesting to know what companies F.G.M. sourced from.
 

Mean Eyed Matt

One Too Many
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1,142
Location
Germany
Thank you, guys, for the compliments!
The velour felt of the F.G.M. is really beautiful,
but the velour of the Hückel is absolutely fantastic!

Unfortunately, both hats are about size 57 (7 1/8)
and too small for me... Very sad!
So maybe I will give them up with a heavy heart...

@Steve:
I've also never seen such a lining design before - and the colour,too.
But what does that mean compared to your expertise?
And in your opinion it's maybe even mid-30s?
 
Messages
17,477
Location
Maryland
Thank you, guys, for the compliments!
The velour felt of the F.G.M. is really beautiful,
but the velour of the Hückel is absolutely fantastic!

Unfortunately, both hats are about size 57 (7 1/8) and too small for me... Very sad!
So maybe I will give them up with a heavy heart...

@Steve:
I've also never seen such a lining design before - and the colour,too.
But what does that mean compared to your expertise?
And in your opinion it's maybe even mid-30s?
Matt, I have seen diagonal split liners like this before but not from JHS.

Here is a JHS "Standard" liner that has some similarities.

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This Brüder Böhm "Bristol" is very similar.

27914810453_fd31bc8bb1_b.jpg


This "Corona" Velour has a diagonal split liner.

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the_imperialist

One of the Regulars
Messages
217
Location
New Zealand
Thank you, guys, for the compliments!
The velour felt of the F.G.M. is really beautiful,
but the velour of the Hückel is absolutely fantastic!

Unfortunately, both hats are about size 57 (7 1/8)
and too small for me... Very sad!
So maybe I will give them up with a heavy heart...

@Steve:
I've also never seen such a lining design before - and the colour,too.
But what does that mean compared to your expertise?
And in your opinion it's maybe even mid-30s?

Please let me know if you ever do let go of the Huckel - I wear a size 57 ;) .
 
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Messages
18,401
Location
Nederland
Some time ago some green trachten velour hats were shown here, which reminded me of mine:
F.G.M. should be Franz Gober Munich - like Marks Bayerland


Here's my FGM - "Sport Velour" - late 50s/early 60s? - size 57 (unfortunately a bit too small)
upbrim
36444705co.jpg

36444706zf.jpg

36444707op.jpg


brim down
36444709gj.jpg

36444708oo.jpg


inside
36444711ts.jpg

36444710ne.jpg


funny enough not from Bavaria but the opposite end of Germany:
Hut-Gundel in Bremerhaven - on the sweatband and the plastic stiffener
36444712ma.jpg

36444713xc.jpg


the label
36444714sl.jpg
Unusual proportions for a trachten hat, Matt. They are almost always smaller brimmed and have more taper. Very nice.
 
Messages
18,401
Location
Nederland
Here the long promised Hückel (I'm sorry, Steve, for taking so long):
JHS Sigma - Seal Velour - grey with black ribbon - late 30s (?) - size 5 (57)
This is the best/finest velour I've ever held in my hands!

36445163be.jpg

36445167ij.jpg

36445165lr.jpg

36445169su.jpg


open crown
36445170om.jpg


inside: unusual lining in purple and white (unfortunately a bit worn out)
36445174mm.jpg

36445178pc.jpg


grey sweatband with golden print
36445177np.jpg


Hückel Logo on the lining
36445175as.jpg


Logo of the seller: "Ortmann - Spandau" (since 1920 part of Berlin)
(at least until 1941 at the same address)
36445176ct.jpg


labels (unfortunately, a piece of foam sticks over it, which cannot be removed without damaging the rest)
36445179ua.jpg

36445181do.jpg

36445180yw.jpg
Gorgeous hat. In every way.
 

feldkappe

New in Town
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9
Location
Arizona
I am looking for a pre 1918 Austrian hat. I would prefer a Homburg style but a fedora or bowler would work. This would not be for wearing, so size and condition does not matter. Maker does not matter either as long as it is Austrian (or Hungarian) pre 1918. I have found a couple top hats, but that won't work for what I need.

Can anyone point me in a good direction to search? Thanks in advance!!
 

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