Footwear to go with our jackets

[andyone]

Really nice profile on these. Did you have the plastic toebox removed?

No, nothing has been removed (I didn't even know that they have a plastic toebox ).

 

[Dav]

White's

 

[Turnip]

Aero‘s

 

[dudewuttheheck]

@Robbie79 I would put flame panda WAAAAAAAAAY above Viberg. The stitching on the uppers is probably around equal to most similar Lofgrens, maybe ever so slightly less consistent spi, but still fantastic. However, the fact that he does handwelting and hand sewn outsole stitching is a major plus for him. I'd put him over Attractions as well, though their engineers are much better designed. He also actually does pretty good designs for the most part which a lot of these new small brands struggle with. His monkey boot and moc toe are especially good. Right now, I'd say his boots are probably third best that I have after White Kloud and Clinch with all things considered. I'm a big fan of his. I think I just went with the standard lining.

 

[Dav]

Viberg Smokejumpers

 

[Turnip]

Dainite Jarrow Marchers to go with the Fred Perry.

 

[Will Zach]

^^
I like the fabric of the pants, too, on this as well as the previous pic. What is it? Seems sturdy.

 

[Turnip]

These are not wonder what, brand of both is Pierre Cardin, model of both is Lyon, older models.

The grey one is kind of Tweed fabric, the grey-green one is what they call Pima Cotton and just printed.

 

[Imuricecreamman]

Putting some more miles on these.

 

[Whitters]

Today's offering.
GGDB Francy - Canvas

 

[Robbie79]

@Robbie79 I would put flame panda WAAAAAAAAAY above Viberg. The stitching on the uppers is probably around equal to most similar Lofgrens, maybe ever so slightly less consistent spi, but still fantastic. However, the fact that he does handwelting and hand sewn outsole stitching is a major plus for him. I'd put him over Attractions as well, though their engineers are much better designed. He also actually does pretty good designs for the most part which a lot of these new small brands struggle with. His monkey boot and moc toe are especially good. Right now, I'd say his boots are probably third best that I have after White Kloud and Clinch with all things considered. I'm a big fan of his. I think I just went with the standard lining.

@dudewuttheheck Thanks for your feedback and advice - thanks to your helpful and detailed review in your blog I decided to order them last week and paid a deposit for shipment around February. It was a joy to talk to Peng as he is really thankful (unfortunately not many are as thankful as he is!), friendly and straight forward. I was really torn between the Green Marbeled Shell Cordovan (would perfectly match my The Few Ortensia Badalassi jacket which has a similar colour variation) and Olive Shell Cordovan and also like their other horsehides from Maryam (not sure how the horsebutt is compared to Clinch's horsebutt) and Cloe. I finally decided to choose the Olive Shell Cordovan 8" Monkey boots (I can change my mind before Peng starts to manufacture them) with double leather sole and DrSole (not sure if quality is as good as e.g. Vibram). Not sure yet if I choose the Norvegese stitching and Kangaroo lining - I can decide this before he starts making them in January.

 

[Robbie79]

@dudewuttheheck Thanks for your feedback and advice - thanks to your helpful and detailed review in your blog I decided to order them last week and paid a deposit for shipment around February. It was a joy to talk to Peng as he is really thankful (unfortunately not many are as thankful as he is!), friendly and straight forward. I was really torn between the Green Marbeled Shell Cordovan (would perfectly match my The Few Ortensia Badalassi jacket which has a similar colour variation) and Olive Shell Cordovan and also like their other horsehides from Maryam (not sure how the horsebutt is compared to Clinch's horsebutt) and Cloe. I finally decided to choose the Olive Shell Cordovan 8" Monkey boots (I can change my mind before Peng starts to manufacture them) with double leather sole and DrSole (not sure if quality is as good as e.g. Vibram). Not sure yet if I choose the Norvegese stitching and Kangaroo lining - I can decide this before he starts making them in January.
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Here's a better pic of the marbeled green shell cordovan...the other one was dark green - marbeled green shell cordovan combo

 

[dudewuttheheck]

@dudewuttheheck Thanks for your feedback and advice - thanks to your helpful and detailed review in your blog I decided to order them last week and paid a deposit for shipment around February. It was a joy to talk to Peng as he is really thankful (unfortunately not many are as thankful as he is!), friendly and straight forward. I was really torn between the Green Marbeled Shell Cordovan (would perfectly match my The Few Ortensia Badalassi jacket which has a similar colour variation) and Olive Shell Cordovan and also like their other horsehides from Maryam (not sure how the horsebutt is compared to Clinch's horsebutt) and Cloe. I finally decided to choose the Olive Shell Cordovan 8" Monkey boots (I can change my mind before Peng starts to manufacture them) with double leather sole and DrSole (not sure if quality is as good as e.g. Vibram). Not sure yet if I choose the Norvegese stitching and Kangaroo lining - I can decide this before he starts making them in January.
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Awesome! Glad to be a bad influence
Peng is a wonderful person and he is definitely someone you feel great about giving your business to. He also makes excellent boots, especially for the price. As I said, I have some better ones, but his work is stellar and a great value for money. My monkey boots from him are one of my favorite pairs.

Both of those leathers are very cool and unique. I think on its own I prefer the olive, but I love the idea of the marbled green matching fairly well with your Ortensia jacket. Have you shown that piece off here before? That is an absolute stunner of a jacket and I would love to see more of it.

 

[Dav]

So what makes shell better than say cxl?
Is it softer, more flexible, more stretchy, I can see that it's clearly shinier but apart from that what makes it so desirable?
My understanding is that getting it wet ruins it, is that right, which to me makes it about as much use as carpet slippers.

 

[Robbie79]

So what makes shell better than say cxl?
Is it softer, more flexible, more stretchy, I can see that it's clearly shinier but apart from that what makes it so desirable?
My understanding is that getting it wet ruins it, is that right, which to me makes it about as much use as carpet slippers.

The Shells are just very rare (makes it more desirable) as it is just a small part of the whole horsehide (please see below image) but I doubt that it's less sturdy than CXL - perhaps other members can comment that better than I can do.

I've also found following information in another forum:
Horsebutt feels more like shell cordovan while horsefronts have a softer hand like the typical horween fqhh on an hh jacket. The difference on the rough side is also obvious. The rough side is less nappy down in the ****.

Here's also a Youtube link on
How Shell Cordovan Leather is Made - Pit Tanning at Horween

Horse (****) strips are sold by horween as a by product of shell cordovan. The mustache shaped remnants in the above video are horse strips

Horween horse strips are often too narrow for shoe uppers, so its more often used for small leather crafts or welting. In japan or anywhere else outside of NA, horse strips are not sold seapartely. If you want horse strips in japan, you will need to buy a full horsebutt hide like this


Horse **** and horse rump are the same thing afaik. The italian tanneries call it horse rump and the japanese call it horsebutt. Horween cuts the horsebutt into different sub sections (stripes and cordovan) and finishes them differently for sale

 

[Dav]

Thanks for the reply. So it's availability then that demands the price, bit like fillet steak, rather than it actually being better. That's fair enough I get that, suppose I should invest really, could see for myself then.

 

[dudewuttheheck]

Shell is also arguably not leather. It's technically the shell membrane on the horse rump so it's not normal leather from what I understand. That's what gives it such unique characteristics.

 

[Bamaboots]

Shell cordovan (or cordovan) is a type of leather commonly used in high-end shoemaking. Cordovan is an equine leather made from the fibrous flat connective tissue (or shell) beneath the hide on the rump of the horse. ... Shell cordovan has a unique non-creasing characteristic.

In the day a common accessory for shell cordovan shoes was a smooth roasted venison bone which was used to help smooth any creases on the vamp of the shoe.

 

[Robbie79]

Shell cordovan (or cordovan) is a type of leather commonly used in high-end shoemaking. Cordovan is an equine leather made from the fibrous flat connective tissue (or shell) beneath the hide on the rump of the horse. ... Shell cordovan has a unique non-creasing characteristic.

In the day a common accessory for shell cordovan shoes was a smooth roasted venison bone which was used to help smooth any creases on the vamp of the shoe.

@Bamaboots Many thanks for your valuable input!

 

[Dav]

"non creasing" hmm, doesn't sound like it's for me then.
Thanks for the replies gents.