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Leigh H

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40s straight zip police jacket

Seller thinks it’s a Starglove but I’m not so sure?

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jeo

Call Me a Cab
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I see your point of view. The black jackets you posted were produced by CSC for other companies. The images of the jacket you posted look like CSC because of the construction methods and features such as sleeve and cuff constructions and belt loops, to name a few obvious samples of CSC work. I even question the labels being original to the jacket.

Sorry bud, these labels are original to the jackets. These are Albert Richard jackets, NOT California Sportswear. You haven’t even seen the backs lol.

Here’s the first one.

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Nothing about this jacket is CSC, not the design, not the cut, not the cuff shape, not the collar shape, not the back design, not the buckles…nothing except that they both employ the double stitches on the pockets.

Here’s the second one.

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As with the first one above…nothing about this jacket is CSC.

Here’s the last one. Again, not a CSC.

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And here’s yet another example.

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I just showed you 4 Albert Richard jackets that have the labels and employ the double stitch. All the labels are original to the jackets. None of them are made by CSC. They are all made by Fried Osterman under their Albert Richard label.

If you want to deny the fact these labels are original to the jackets, that’s on you.

Let me start with the black police jackets. Those were made by CSC. I have the originals with the CSC labels. One easy giveaway on the black one with the Lewis tag, which is original to the jacket, is that it was not made by them.

What’s the easy giveaway???

They contracted it from CSC. More evidence is the lining, which is the same lining used by CSC. LOL. It even has Made in Los Angeles.

Not the same lining. Also, so what?? There were tons of jackets made in Los Angeles during that time period.

Lewis Holsters and Letaher Goods was a maker. They have a small cult following in the side arm community for their holsters. They made their own jackets. CSC did not make jackets for them. Can’t post more pics but look at the design…they look nothing like a CSC…not even the double stitch construction technique around the pockets!

Regarding the ones with the AR labels, they appear a little suspicious to me.
What do you think…I’m photoshopping those labels on there?!

The black one with the plaid looks like a Californian due to the sleeves, cuffs, collar, and stitching. The lining was repaired, and the label was reattached with a different sewing machine and stitch in different spacing than the rest of the jacket. The zipper and other areas have been repaired.
Sorry bud. Label is original to the jacket. It’s an Albert Richard lol. You can say the label doesn’t belong all you want…you’re wrong.

The black one with solid lining. Is an exact Californian replica down to stitching and the element designs of the CSC collar, sleeves, cuffs, and shoulder spacing and symmetry?
No it isn’t. Not even close!

The stitching was made on a CSC machine, just like the other black ones. HOWEVER, this model I have seen in the flesh and in an original 1939 catalog. IT IS AN ALBERT RICHARD MADE FOR THEM BY CSC.
CSC never made jackets for Albert Richard

Brown Jacket. It is a CSC.
Wrong!

This one is the easiest to spot right away. Just look at the stitching and thread. Very few companies utilized such spacing. Californians often used that contrasting thread that made a very distinct feature in the leather/thread penetration. Regarding the label, it appears to be placed in the wrong location, and it appears to be replaced but with a different machine.

In my view, those AR-labeled jackets appear questionable but one.
Lol

That black one with solid black lining is made by CSC for AR.
Nope, wrong.

Besides, how many other companies can incorporate such a unique method in jacket manufacturing? Not even a well-recognized modern companies have reproduced the double-pocket stitching like CSC did.
Tons and tons.

Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that many makers used this double stitching around the pocket? Old Becks and Schotts have it, old Leathertogs have it, pretty much any old car coat or barnstormer have it too. Block Bilt also used the double stitch. You gunna tell me they didn’t make their own jackets and that CSC made their jackets for them??

Lastly, I contacted Jauregui, who worked in the industry when CSC was at its height in manufacturing. He is a wealth of information and is by far more knowledgeable than me.
Oh well that settles it now doesn’t it? Lol!!
 

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blm14

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get a room you two :p

Here's a nice size 40 burgundy walter dyer vest. It has the signature version of the label, which makes it an earlier example. Buy it now $60!

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Bluechel

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