Engineer Boots, Harness Boots...

[Blackadder]

Motor 3rd model boots







Three layers of leather for extra protection above the heel

 

[bretron]

Wow. Congrats, Blackadder! Beautiful yet functional design. Ain't that a novel concept

They made out of CXL? Has that distinct matte sheen to it

 

[Edward]

Lovely! What's the skinny on those?

 

[Blackadder]

Lovely! What's the skinny on those?

Wow. Congrats, Blackadder! Beautiful yet functional design. Ain't that a novel concept

They made out of CXL? Has that distinct matte sheen to it

Thanks. Good eyes. Yes these are Horween CXL same as Lone Wolf. Even brass hardware is similar to Lone Wolf.

http://store-motostyle.jp/?mode=grp&gid=781736&sort=n

Mine are the 3rd model.

 

[regius]

Lone Wold, JL, very similar to this. The profile from the top is more like Lone Wolf.

I have figured out why the Attractions walks funny. Excuse me for being didactic here 'cause I ain't a bootmaker, but I do believe what I'm about to say would determine if the boots stands and walks funny. Many engineer boots have stacked heels, overall they are all high heel boots. Yet, many of them don't feel high on the heels as the height of the heel would look. What I mean is your feet actually is quite parallel to the ground. This is very intriguing and I'm sure in bootmaking school this is somewhat of an important aspect to master. Because if you look at the seam between the last of the shoe and the sole from the side, it's obviously a slope. However, just like a kid's slide, the top of the slide plateaus out. This is where the heel is. Therefore, the curve of the slide follows the curve of the bottom of the foot, flat, down and flat again. This would appears to be common sense in shoe making so that the feet don't keep slipping forward and cram into the front of the last.

However, I noticed the Attractions "top of the slide" don't plateau out! The Attractions are not higher than any other boots and the slope of the slide is not even as steep as Chipps or RoleClub, but when I'm standing in them, I actually feel like standing in women's heels, i.e. my calf and tendon are shortened. I walk on my heels, so most of my shoes my heel wears around the edge first. Walking (my way) in Attractions always needs adapting.

This is my observation and a little personal tip on choosing boots purely visually. I believe looking from the side at how the seam curves can predict how they walk.

 

[Blackadder]

Lone Wold, JL, very similar to this. The profile from the top is more like Lone Wolf.

I have figured out why the Attractions walks funny. Excuse me for being didactic here 'cause I ain't a bootmaker, but I do believe what I'm about to say would determine if the boots stands and walks funny. Many engineer boots have stacked heels, overall they are all high heel boots. Yet, many of them don't feel high on the heels as the height of the heel would look. What I mean is your feet actually is quite parallel to the ground. This is very intriguing and I'm sure in bootmaking school this is somewhat of an important aspect to master. Because if you look at the seam between the last of the shoe and the sole from the side, it's obviously a slope. However, just like a kid's slide, the top of the slide plateaus out. This is where the heel is. Therefore, the curve of the slide follows the curve of the bottom of the foot, flat, down and flat again. This would appears to be common sense in shoe making so that the feet don't keep slipping forward and cram into the front of the last.

However, I noticed the Attractions "top of the slide" don't plateau out! The Attractions are not higher than any other boots and the slope of the slide is not even as steep as Chipps or RoleClub, but when I'm standing in them, I actually feel like standing in women's heels, i.e. my calf and tendon are shortened. I walk on my heels, so most of my shoes my heel wears around the edge first. Walking (my way) in Attractions always needs adapting.

This is my observation and a little personal tip on choosing boots purely visually. I believe looking from the side at how the seam curves can predict how they walk.

The Motor is similar in shape to Toys McCoy Beck and JL but less so to Lonewolf. The Lonewolf is a slimmer looking boots because the welt is narrower. The toe box shape the Lonewolf is also closer to present day Red Wing Engineer whilst the Motor/Beck/JL's toe box shape is closer to present day Red Wing Pecos.
In addition to what you mentioned (which might be an issue), the leather used by Attraction is not heavy but very stiff and the shaft of the boot is not at a 90 degree angle to the ground. All these requires extra effort and time to break in for the shaft and the sole to bend and form to feet and legs.



See the huge lump on the back of the shaft of the broken in Attraction when compared to a broken in Wesco Boss

 

[regius]

Blackadder, I defer to you on the similarities/differences between JL, motor and Wolf. I think what you said makes sense when Red Wing 2268 and Pecos are in the equation.

You are also spot on the leather and shaft angle of the Attractions, I have noticed the forward tilting shaft and saw them this morning again. I'm walking around in them clicking clicking on the heels, very stiff. However, I do love the horsehide, the right thickness and stiffness and texture to my liking. I only wish the aforementioned designs could be changed.

 

[Kato]

Here is my RedWing PT91 sent to Brass for :

1. Relast to Classic Narrow toe ( original steel toe removed)
2. Rewelt ( I am supprised that they are using storm welt for my boots)
3. Leather sole(5mm mid sole) + half rubber sole + Triumph steels * Biltrite NYLON heel
4. Exchange buckles(steel press buckles by Brass)

Mr. Masafumi has sent me some pics before delivery :

 

[dh66]

They look great.

 

[bretron]

Wow!!!! Pretty sure these are the nicest overhauled 2268s I've seen- congratulations, Kato! You must be tickled pink

 

[Kato]

They look great.

Wow!!!! Pretty sure these are the nicest overhauled 2268s I've seen- congratulations, Kato! You must be tickled pink

Thx all of you!
Yes.. even though it is quite costly, but I really love the outcome

I just get the boots today ... It is so nice...XDDD

 

[bretron]

Making me very excited to get a pair on that last

 

[kyboots]

Guys these are outstanding, beautiful boots I would love to wear. But I am lost on something though aren't we still putting a lot 0f money into Redwing boots?

 

[strokes1251]

Man those are some nice looking redwings though and Im just like to show pics of wear on my RRL boots (not the julian made ones the Rios of Mercedes ones) since Januray of this year. If I go out and Im wearing pants then I always wear these to go out. They are breaking in quite good wish I could get the black ones now in my size but sadly the guy I bought them off sold out in my size. If you guys find these in your size and a good price give them a shot!

 

[Kato]

Man those are some nice looking redwings though and Im just like to show pics of wear on my RRL boots (not the julian made ones the Rios of Mercedes ones) since Januray of this year. If I go out and Im wearing pants then I always wear these to go out. They are breaking in quite good wish I could get the black ones now in my size but sadly the guy I bought them off sold out in my size. If you guys find these in your size and a good price give them a shot!

No offense.. I prefer the old Julian version more... whatever the last , workmenship and leather selection are great

 

[bretron]

Clinch by Brass Tokyo, CN last, brown hand dyed Horween Latigo

 

[Dav]

Very nice, Breton!

My little collection as they look today.


Viberg, Wesco, White's and Wesco

 

[RJR]

Nice collection.

 

[bretron]

Dav, thx buddy! And man that collection is looking great! Pls remind me; your MP toes in brown or burgundy domain?

 

[Dav]

Thanks, the MP's are in brown.