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[Zoro]

Different kind of question: Any leather and/or denim shops to visit in Italy? I go every year, this year I'll go to Milan and Naples but I plan on (re)visiting Rome, Firenze, Torino and virtually anywhere else there. It'll be good to shop around in between eating like a pig and seeing monuments. For now I've only spotted the ones listed here - https://shangrilaheritage.it/retailers/ as well as a vintage shop in Milan that as I queried here I found comments about them having very few quality items and everything way overpriced.

Thanks!

 

[Canuck Panda]

Thanks! I don't (want to) consider cracks, grain or creasing as patina, but I'll share if I see any pictures. I've seen people both here on the Classifieds as well on Ebay announcing jackets "with amazing patina" that to me simply looked old, I just didn't share them in the moment and just asked as that the question went through my mind when I saw an actual patina (or what I did consider it so).

Even querying now I've struggled to find one that's lightened, all other results were darkened. I did find this one:

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To me it just looks old and beaten. But then again, I might just be wrong and simply found something I don't like.

For me, patina is when the surface of the leather darkens. And fade is when the surface lightens up. Some leathers can appear to do both. It takes both friction and oxidation, but best to let time do its thing, very rarely I see man made patina/fade that looks good, most just looks man made and not in a good way.

 

[newtojackets]

Anyone know what schott this is? Haven’t seen this lining before:

 

[sambuca]

What are the webshops in Japan that carry Real Mccoy's?
I could only find barnstormer with some in stock. Looking to get my hands on a Buco Jacket and a friend has family there...

 

[newtojackets]

Anyone know what schott this is? Haven’t seen this lining before:

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@jeo , asking the resident schott export

 

[jeo]

@jeo , asking the resident schott export

Wish I could help, but unfortunately my interest and therefore knowledge of Schott stops right around the late 80’s.

 

[WolfofStateSt]

@ABCD your moment of fame haha:

The leather jacket rabbit hole… until discover a deck jacket and peacoat, and realize you can look amazing and be able to wear it in a thunderstorm without ruining it.

A leather jacket is like the first girl you fall in love with, you high school sweetheart. Your first. Nothing comes to the passion or excitement you had for her.

But a good peacoat or deck jacket is like woman you end up marrying. Versatile, mature, and someone that will mature with you.

But unless ladies, unless you’re Mormon, at least with jackets, you can keep both.

 

[newtojackets]

The leather jacket rabbit hole… until discover a deck jacket and peacoat, and realize you can look amazing and be able to wear it in a thunderstorm without ruining it.

A leather jacket is like the first girl you fall in love with, you high school sweetheart. Your first. Nothing comes to the passion or excitement you had for her.

But a good peacoat or deck jacket is like woman you end up marrying. Versatile, mature, and someone that will mature with you.

But unless ladies, unless you’re Mormon, at least with jackets, you can keep both.

You can wear a peacoat in the rain? I would assume the wool would just get drenched and so would you

 

[WolfofStateSt]

You can wear a peacoat in the rain? I would assume the wool would just get drenched and so would you

It will get heavy but you’ll still be warm. That’s why navies used the Peacoat for so long, wool doesn’t loose that much heat when wet.

Some people might say their leather jacket can get rained on and be fine, but you are buying for life that generally means $1000 plus on a leather jacket, you’re either pretty brave or pretty stupid to test that out empirically.

The best option is an oiled deck jacket imo. You get the fur collar that makes so many flight jackets look cool, plus they are functionally waterproof unless you’re in a monsoon.

Personally I wear my leather when it’s sunny and bone dry outside, and if there is any chance of rain or snow I switch to a peacoat or deck jacket. But to each their own I guess.

Leather jackets are undoubtedly the coolest, but if I could only own one jacket it would be a deck jacket.

 

[MrProper]

Some people might say their leather jacket can get rained on and be fine, but you are buying for life that generally means $1000 plus on a leather jacket, you’re either pretty brave or pretty stupid to test that out empirically.

neither stupid nor brave, but they know what they are doing. I've soaked dozens of leather jackets on my motorbike in the past and my Aeros and Lewis Leather have also got very wet. No problem at all. Chromexcel in particular is almost like a rain jacket for me.
But why I still find a deck jacket nice in bad weather is that it is simply cosier and a leather jacket is colder.

 

[WolfofStateSt]

neither stupid nor brave, but they know what they are doing. I've soaked dozens of leather jackets on my motorbike in the past and my Aeros and Lewis Leather have also got very wet. No problem at all. Chromexcel in particular is almost like a rain jacket for me.
But why I still find a deck jacket nice in bad weather is that it is simply cosier and a leather jacket is colder.

Well I guess you learn something new every day. I soaked a Schott once a while ago but since I was getting rid of it anyway I never really cared or checked if it was alright after.

Your jackets honestly showed no signs of cracking or damage after the rain?

That’s crazy I was always told wearing leather in the rain was a death sentence just like not winding an automatic between 9 pm and 4 am.

 

[MrProper]

Your jackets honestly showed no signs of cracking or damage after the rain?

No, everything is fine. The only thing I make sure of is that the wet jackets don't dry with heat. But otherwise everything is fine. I used to apply cream to the motorbike jackets from time to time when the leather felt a bit dry. But that was also very rare.

 

[WolfofStateSt]

No, everything is fine. The only thing I make sure of is that the wet jackets don't dry with heat. But otherwise everything is fine. I used to apply cream to the motorbike jackets from time to time when the leather felt a bit dry. But that was also very rare.

Does the type of leather matter? I’m scared of ruining my Real McCoy A2, considering those cost an arm and a kidney

 

[WolfofStateSt]

Also I might as well ask here. I’m a size XXL in Iron Heart Jackets like their deck. Between size 40 and 42 in most brands. What size should I go for in Mr. Freedom Deck Jackets??

 

[TartuWolf]

That’s crazy I was always told wearing leather in the rain was a death sentence

Talk about being misinformed eh? That's okay, you came to the right place to learn.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

Does the type of leather matter? I’m scared of ruining my Real McCoy A2, considering those cost an arm and a kidney

Generally chrome-tanned leather has better water repellency.

Shinki can keep the rain away only temporarily - soon enough the water will seep through and get through the lining.

 

[newtojackets]

Thinking of buying a used leather jacket, but the seller has said there’s a white mark on the jacket that resembles mold. Is this mold and is the jacket ruined, or is it easily redeemable?

 

[WolfofStateSt]

Thinking of buying a used leather jacket, but the seller has said there’s a white mark on the jacket that resembles mold. Is this mold and is the jacket ruined, or is it easily redeemable?

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Great leathers does leather restoration.

 

[newtojackets]

Great leathers does leather restoration.

Do you think this leather needs restoration?

 

[WolfofStateSt]

Do you think this leather needs restoration?

If has mold on it probably