STETSON 7x CLEAR BEAVER QUALITY

[carouselvic]

The 7X and the Stetson 100 are both a nice piece of felt…

 

[moontheloon]

The 7X and the Stetson 100 are both a nice piece of felt…

So I've heard, my friend.

I hope to have one of each in my possession within the coming weeks.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Stetson 7XCB’s for 1949 & 1950

 

[Bamaboots]

Stetson 7XCB’s for 1949 & 1950

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I was thinking I had two of four until I found my cheater’s. I have the one with the Llano dimensions but carries a three-cord.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

I was thinking I had two of four until I found my cheater’s. I have the one with the Llano dimensions but carries a three-cord.

I haven’t thought that far ahead yet since finding this listing. It’s good to finally get away from the idea of unmarked OR’s though.

 

[moontheloon]

Stetson 7XCB’s for 1949 & 1950

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Jack
Any idea what Stetson called "service weight" was ?
The OR is "semi-Service Weight" and the Llano is "heavier service weight"
I guess I can kind of get an idea what they meant but I'm not sure I have read that particular nomenclature for it before.
Interesting.
I assume the "medium weight" of the Aristocrat was lighter ?
Ever owned and Aristocrat?

 

[M Hatman]

I haven’t thought that far ahead yet since finding this listing. It’s good to finally get away from the idea of unmarked OR’s though.

Those ads are great...have not seen that before. Is is catalog or newspaper?

And YES, not every hat with OR appointments is an OR, they had so many catalog models like the Deming and Southwest for example (though I am not sure either were ever offered in 7XCB) and several others.

The Southwest in RD

And there very much are 7XCB's marked as OR's......I know...I have one.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Jack
Any idea what Stetson called "service weight" was ?
The OR is "semi-Service Weight" and the Llano is "heavier service weight"
I guess I can kind of get an idea what they meant but I'm not sure I have read that particular nomenclature for it before.
Interesting.
I assume the "medium weight" of the Aristocrat was lighter ?
Ever owned and Aristocrat?

I could be wrong but I would rank the felt wgt from lightest to heaviest in this order. Let me know if you agree or not. I take the western dress wgt to be the lightest because it is a dress wgt & being a RE. I’ve not encountered this nomenclature before now either.

western dress wgt — Corral 5.5x2.75 RE
Semi service Wgt — OR 5.5x2.875
Medium wgt — Aristocrat 5.5x3
Heavier service wgt — Llano 5.75x3

I’m wondering if back in the day LEO’s (TX, NM, AZ) got a uniform allowance & if the Aristocrat & the Llano were the hats of choice, depending on the individual? Those choices would standardized the 3” BE brim, giving a .250” leeway in the height of the crown to accommodate the height of the officer, vehicle clearance, etc.

I don’t own a 7XCB that would be as old as 1949 - 1950. I should check to see if I own one with either Aristocrat or Llano specs, & if so then research to find out the yrs they were in production.

I do have a 100 that measures 2.625 RE campaign ribbon (the way I measure) x 5.5 without a mule kick, that could be similar to the Corral assuming the Corral was offered in a 100.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Is is catalog or newspaper?

Catalog (thank you Vic!)

 

[jlee562]

Hmm...so mine matches the specs of the Llano, but it doesn't seem like a "heavier" weight, it's one of the lighter hats I own.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

so mine matches the specs of the Llano

RE?

 

[moontheloon]

I could be wrong but I would rank the felt wgt from lightest to heaviest in this order. Let me know if you agree or not. I take the western dress wgt to be the lightest because it is a dress wgt & being a RE. I’ve not encountered this nomenclature before now either.

western dress wgt — Corral 5.5x2.75 RE
Semi service Wgt — OR 5.5x2.875
Medium wgt — Aristocrat 5.5x3
Heavier service wgt — Llano 5.75x3

I’m wondering if back in the day LEO’s (TX, NM, AZ) got a uniform allowance & if the Aristocrat & the Llano were the hats of choice, depending on the individual? Those choices would standardized the 3” BE brim, giving a .250” leeway in the height of the crown to accommodate the height of the officer, vehicle clearance, etc.

I don’t own a 7XCB that would be as old as 1949 - 1950. I should check to see if I own one with either Aristocrat or Llano specs, & if so then research to find out the yrs they were in production.

I do have a 100 that measures 2.625 RE campaign ribbon (the way I measure) x 5.5 without a mule kick, that could be similar to the Corral assuming the Corral was offered in a 100.

definitely makes sense to me

 

[jlee562]

RE?

Raw Edge? Yes.

 

[Bamaboots]

If I’d read the the catalog listing closely, I’d realize I don’t have a Llano. Just close. I don’t own a RE 7X CB. Anyway, good enough reason to drag this one out for some pics.

 

[Who me?]

First, I would like to say how much I enjoyed reading this thread. Incredible hats. Hope to snag one for myself someday.
I have this coming for my wife.
Any idea as to the age. I was guessing 50s-60s? Will have more pictures in a couple days if needed.
Her first beaver hat. She’s very excited.

 

[jlee562]

Keyhole tag and plastic liner tip is probably a mid-late 50's hat. Earlier would have the onion skin liner tip, and 60's hats start using the square black tag.

 

[Who me?]

Keyhole tag and plastic liner tip is probably a mid-late 50's hat. Earlier would have the onion skin liner tip, and 60's hats start using the square black tag.

Thank you.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

First, I would like to say how much I enjoyed reading this thread. Incredible hats. Hope to snag one for myself someday.
I have this coming for my wife.
Any idea as to the age. I was guessing 50s-60s? Will have more pictures in a couple days if needed.
Her first beaver hat. She’s very excited.

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Congratulations & I hope she enjoys it. Incredible example of a really fine hat!

 

[Who me?]

Congratulations & I hope she enjoys it. Incredible example of a really fine hat!

Thanks Jack.
She’s not only excited about the hat, but also, the history of the hat.
I continue to educate myself on the history of hats and she enjoys our discussions about the subject.
She likes hats and loves history. The perfect storm.

 

[Bamaboots]

First, I would like to say how much I enjoyed reading this thread. Incredible hats. Hope to snag one for myself someday.
I have this coming for my wife.
Any idea as to the age. I was guessing 50s-60s? Will have more pictures in a couple days if needed.
Her first beaver hat. She’s very excited.

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Your problem may be if or when she finds out about the different models the 7X CB was made in. The OR is a grail piece for many collectors and that’s a great one.