How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

[torfjord]

And for many others... they will have to review their pricing

Agree. Problem for them is if they import their material (like Italian horsehide for example), their production costs would go up as well. Yeah, this will change the market all right.

 

[Monitor]

Sounds like an ideal moment for this Engelbert Vanek fellow in Austria to... make a website?

Let's make these guys some money. Best part, once they become famous, all those other slackers are going to have to up their game to keep up.

 

[handymike]

Ah, yes that’s right as @Mandarin pointed out. I’ve never purchased from them, but seemed to remember someone saying that their workshop was in Greece? Hence my confusion on their location.

We are all a bit confused when it comes to the internal workings of BK. Best not to think about it too much, and enjoy the jackets

 

[Jin431]

Let's make these guys some money. Best part, once they become famous, all those other slackers are going to have to up their game to keep up.

I'm down for this. That jacket that was sold to Robbie looked great

There was also that bespoke French cyclist jacket post recently that looked rather interesting. Maybe makers in other parts of Europe will gain from this

 

[wild_balls]

I read that there are some rules about an item being produced in the UK that may be releived from some of the fees that are coming with import.
I should also say that it is quite hard to understand the whole thing. Don’t take my words for the absolute truth as I don’t think everything clears until we have grown in to it some time next year. There are about 2000 points in the agreement to understand. It wasn’t meant to be a Brexit thread

Cheers Joakim

 

[ABCD]

The brexit will also impact the second hand market. Jackets sold by UK based sellers like 'mintvintage 66' will become more expensive. I can also image second hand Aero jackets getting more expensive within the European market.

 

[Jin431]

I read that there are some rules about an item being produced in the UK that may be releived from some of the fees that are coming with import.
I should also say that it is quite hard to understand the whole thing. Don’t take my words for the absolute truth as I don’t think everything clears until we have grown in to it some time next year. There are about 2000 points in the agreement to understand. It wasn’t meant to be a Brexit thread

Cheers Joakim

As an outsider looking in, I find it very interesting. I'm intrigued how forum members from mainland Europe and those from the British Isles react to this. Especially concerning when it is about leather jackets lol

 

[Mandarin]

I read that there are some rules about an item being produced in the UK that may be releived from some of the fees that are coming with import.
I should also say that it is quite hard to understand the whole thing. Don’t take my words for the absolute truth as I don’t think everything clears until we have grown in to it some time next year. There are about 2000 points in the agreement to understand. It wasn’t meant to be a Brexit thread

Cheers Joakim

We'll see. I have an order coming from UK. I checked the government's site concerning taxes, but it's like navigating in the mist. They can't provide a simple guideline to calculate taxes according to the value of your goods. In the worst of cases, I'll have to add half of the value, like @Marc mndt calculated. Which, again, is going to completely change the game for me.

 

[Mich486]

Imagine buying an elmc californian direct from Eastman. £1200 +£30 Shipping.
£1230*1.12 (customs fee)=£1378
£1378*1.21 (VAT)=£1667 =€1850

That's €1850 for a stock Eastman jacket.

I could buy a custom Shinki hh Thedi from that money and still have €300 left in my pocket.

Same holds for Aero, Field Leathers and any other maker from the UK.

You are assuming the VAT is paid twice. That won’t happen.

 

[ABCD]

This is exactly how it works when I buy something from the US or from China and import it into the European union.

Do you think I will be able to buy from Eastman/Aero without paying VAT?

 

[Mich486]

Local taxes are not (at least they shouldn’t) charged when exporting.

So Eastman will charge you the price ex UK VAT and then you’ll pay VAT and custom duties/fees to the Dutch authority. This is assuming a WTO style deal. A lot of EU online stores normally quote prices both with and without VAT. It’s common practise.

I’m not entirely sure what the Brexit arrangements are though. It might also be that the UK will join soonish the EEA like Norway etc and so it’ll be all the same. Too early to tell but there will be some disruption in the short term.

 

[Mark R]

I think no one is absolutely sure how it’s going to pan out. For me living in Scotland there is still plenty of choice between new UK makers and second hand jackets on the eBay UK site.

 

[JMax]

Sounds like you would better off flying to the UK to get fitted and pick up a jacket? Crazy.

 

[roadking04]

I was on the phone with Vanson yesterday,

Can't wait to see your new creation. I'm sure it is gonna rock. I notice you are getting it made in CXL? Is that from Horween? Did they mention anything about their next comp. weight leather? Hopefully Vanson can weather this storm.

 

[Carlos840]

Can't wait to see your new creation. I'm sure it is gonna rock. I notice you are getting it made in CXL? Is that from Horween? Did they mention anything about their next comp. weight leather? Hopefully Vanson can weather this storm.

It is Horween CXl, the same batch that was used to make the "Gold standard" Left Field Commando (as pictured in my previous post). It is a little bit thinner than what Aero uses, closer to 3oz than 3.5oz.
Apparently after making the 20 (not sure if 20 is total or per size) jackets from the run they had enough left for a couple jackets.
I asked them if they would agree to make a custom commando for me with some of it, they said "sure, if Chirstian says yes", Christian at Left Field said yes and we got started.
It was really a fun project, i got to mix and match all the features i liked from the Commando, Chopper and J-82, I actualy had Theresa (the woman who designed the Vanson Commando) on Facetime, designing the pattern in real time as we spoke about it.

I spoke with them about the current leather and i think they are doing the best they can with what is available to them. A lot of tanneries are closing, the guy who used to wax their leather retired, their last two tanneris went down, but i think they are doing ok and pushing forward.
From what i heard there is no change planned regarding the comp weight.
The X150 is in final testing phase.

 

[Robbie79]

Actually my first Sashiko jacket - Japan Blue Indigo dyed Sashiko jacket - I hope I will receive it next Monday.

 

[JMax]

It is Horween CXl, the same batch that was used to make the "Gold standard" Left Field Commando (as pictured in my previous post). It is a little bit thinner than what Aero uses, closer to 3oz than 3.5oz.
Apparently after making the 20 (not sure if 20 is total or per size) jackets from the run they had enough left for a couple jackets.
I asked them if they would agree to make a custom commando for me with some of it, they said "sure, if Chirstian says yes", Christian at Left Field said yes and we got started.
It was really a fun project, i got to mix and match all the features i liked from the Commando, Chopper and J-82, I actualy had Theresa (the woman who designed the Vanson Commando) on Facetime, designing the pattern in real time as we spoke about it.

I spoke with them about the current leather and i think they are doing the best they can with what is available to them. A lot of tanneries are closing, the guy who used to wax their leather retired, their last two tanneris went down, but i think they are doing ok and pushing forward.

That’s awesome bud. Really cool. I spoke with Christian years ago when I ordered my Commando. Cool dude. And he rides a kick *** Norton I believe.

 

[Robbie79]

Ah, yes that’s right as @Mandarin pointed out. I’ve never purchased from them, but seemed to remember someone saying that their workshop was in Greece? Hence my confusion on their location.

As far as I Remember I received my BK jacket from Greece but paid in GBP

 

[Robbie79]

Sounds like an ideal moment for this Engelbert Vanek fellow in Austria to... make a website?

I‘ll give a short review after receipt of the Engelbert Vanek...just concerned about the length of the jacket

 

[Robbie79]

Incoming :

1) Eastman Californian in black
2) Y2 roughout type II
3) Chinese canvas / leather type II

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The above jacket is obviously inspired by Thedi's canvas/leather shawl collar. Normally, I'm not interested in buying knockoffs but this one is just loosely inspired by the original so I thought I'd give it a go.

@Marc mndt Congrats. I like all of them and I’m curious about the Chinese type II. Looking forward to your review. Is the Eastman new or second hand, also in terms of import tax from UK?