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Well said, MK. Even the "Mod" era seems to frighten me
K.D. Lightner said:Missjoeri -- Lordy, in your alternate biography life you don't even make it to 40! Dying so young!?
You could have tagged another 20 years on and still missed the hippie trauma.
karol
missjoeri said:Quote: Originally Posted by PrettyBigGuy
For people of other ethinic groups such as blacks and asians things were still pretty horrible in the "Golden Era" and the only civil rights that these people received were when someone signalled before turning their car to the right!
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Quite right, mind you racism like you had in america right up to the 1960's was something we didnt see much overhere, the few blacks we had were rather populair and exotic.
We had many people from other cultures living here but besides the common racist remarks they had pretty much the same rights everyone else had.
But I realise it was pretty special and just plain luck for them who lived in Holland.
Well its not just the cool cars, music and men I like about that era, but I do agree that many people only look at the glamourous side of that era.
Living the common retro life quickly cures that.
Well, on one level, I agree with you. Standards of courtesy have certainly, regrettably, fallen over the past 50 years. Often nowadays I try to be polite to some people, and they look at me strangely, as though I'm uptight or OCD. Some even ask me who the Hel I think I am, putting on airs like that!Oscar Tong said:People, I think, would have been more inclined to comply with the rules and regulations of society, practice etiquette, and generally be polite and courteous.
K.D. Lightner said:...that our children will not die of some creepy "childhood disease"
...that we can buy what we want, when we want. Does anybody remember layaway? Or second hand stores? (If my grandfather wore fur felt hats, it is because he got them at the Salvation Army. Rich folks would die and leave their fancy clothes to the SA. Nowadays, a vintage shop scarfs them up before they ever hit the aisles!)
...credit cards, my mother wishes they had never been invented; on the other hand, if your car breaks down in the middle of Kansas and you haven't carried lots of cash with you....
...that you will have some sort of income when you retire (unless you let the politicans take it from you); that you will have some sort of medical care for seniors (unless you let the politicans take it from you). I will be retiring from my job next month and will get both a pension and social security.
...that you will know events and things that happen in the news within just seconds, rather than hours or days. That we have become the "Global Village" McCluan envisioned. it makes us safer, even with the murderous intents of terrorists and some countries.
... and that we still have the chance to fight to save the ecology,
... and that life might have been "golden" then for fiercely independent women, who had excellent health and did not get in any bizarre accidents, nor miss their computers, cell phones and credit cards.
Everyone else was pretty downtrodden and worked their kazoos off for very little money. Try washing your clothes just once in a washtub.
Try chopping wood for two hours a day to keep warm in the winter, or shoveling coal,
Many households already had hot water overhere, I dont take baths much anyway, im a shower person.or heating buckets of water so you could take a bath --
and you only took one on a Saturday night, so you would be clean and sparkly for church the next morning.
... and remember, that $20 hat you now covet would have been a lot of dough back in the 1930's. You would be making a few bucks a week. Not until the war would you have had more expendable income.
I figure the grass is always greener and people in all ages have talked about a golden era. Some folks in the thirties probably wanted to go back to the gay nineties, or the frontier era, or...?
Vladimir Berkov said:I am not really sure. It would be really great to live in 1930 until you get heart disease or diabetes or polio and then the fun ends really quickly.
Medical issues aside I think I could get used to not having a TV or computer in time, I am not really worried about getting bored or even earning a living. They needed lawyers in 1930 just as they do now, right?
The thing I think would be most important is what would happen to all my friends and family. Would they go in the time machine too? Because if they didn't and it was a one-way trip then it would be pretty bittersweet to get to experience the 1930s but never getting to see any of my friends or family ever again.
Vladimir Berkov said:Btw, it is neat to see you found this place Miss Joeri. I remember you from way back on the RKKA and Civvies lists.
Well again that is only if you would go back to the 1930s and live as a poor person, people with jobs, middle class and higher, would be able to get clothes, they became much cheaper because of machine production.
I dont like that, it makes me feel powerless.
I dont want to watch live how thousands are dying of hunger, I dont want to look into the faces of dying children, see soldiers fight, places be bombed.
In the 1930's all these terrible events would have been radio reports or newsstories about a place very very far away.
It would have been easier to shut it out.
Not very politically correct, I know, but having grown up with in this small world I sometimes long back to the time when my country was a bit of a island simply minding its own business.
Lauren Henline said:If time travel were to become available, and as widespread as jumping back in forth in time with multiple people, do you not agree that the world would be filled with people unsure of their surroundings?
Changing the course of time would alter where we have come, in my opinion, in a negative way.
If you were to have lunch with your great grandfather when he was a young adult- suppose he even fell in love with you and married you instead! You could wipe out entire generations of your lineage!
And to say that we have the foresight to set restrictions, learn about the time era, and dress in period styles is not particularly an argument, since if it became available it would most likely first filter through the upper classes, and I know how arrogant and demanding high class tourists can be. Most people have no wish to better themselves or alter themselves to "fit in" and altering a twenty first century mindset to mould into the twentieth century or older will produce gaps and uncertainties. While time travel is fun to think about, I don't personally believe it is possible, unless we make it our personal world around us in this current age. And I personally think it's better that way.