Quan_love_leather
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I’ve noticed something that I’m curious about.
The standard Schott 613 has underarm gussets for improved mobility, but some of the special versions such as the 613SJH, 613SH, 613UHT, 613UST and other versions made with Shinki or Horween leather don’t seem to retain that construction.
I’ve also noticed that many other brands, from Europe to Japan and elsewhere, that use Shinki or Horween leather tend to avoid underarm gussets or similar mobility focused constructions.
I’m wondering why this is the case. Is there a technical reason related to the leather itself, or is it more about the desired silhouette, pattern making, aesthetics, or the design philosophy of these jackets?
I ask because, from my experience, some of these Shinki,Horween jackets can be quite stiff and restrictive when raising the arms or moving them freely. It makes me wonder how practical they would be for an actual riding position where the arms need to be raised or extended, such as on a chopper.
I’m also curious whether other people have had the same experience as I have. Do you find these stiff premium hides noticeably restrictive in terms of arm mobility, or do you feel that the pattern and break in eventually compensate for it?
Has anyone here compared a stiff Shinki,Horween jacket with and without an underarm gusset? I’d particularly like to hear from people with experience in leather jacket patterning or construction.
And finally,is there a reason why a jacket can’t combine a relatively stiff premium hide with an underarm gusset or other mobility focused construction?
The standard Schott 613 has underarm gussets for improved mobility, but some of the special versions such as the 613SJH, 613SH, 613UHT, 613UST and other versions made with Shinki or Horween leather don’t seem to retain that construction.
I’ve also noticed that many other brands, from Europe to Japan and elsewhere, that use Shinki or Horween leather tend to avoid underarm gussets or similar mobility focused constructions.
I’m wondering why this is the case. Is there a technical reason related to the leather itself, or is it more about the desired silhouette, pattern making, aesthetics, or the design philosophy of these jackets?
I ask because, from my experience, some of these Shinki,Horween jackets can be quite stiff and restrictive when raising the arms or moving them freely. It makes me wonder how practical they would be for an actual riding position where the arms need to be raised or extended, such as on a chopper.
I’m also curious whether other people have had the same experience as I have. Do you find these stiff premium hides noticeably restrictive in terms of arm mobility, or do you feel that the pattern and break in eventually compensate for it?
Has anyone here compared a stiff Shinki,Horween jacket with and without an underarm gusset? I’d particularly like to hear from people with experience in leather jacket patterning or construction.
And finally,is there a reason why a jacket can’t combine a relatively stiff premium hide with an underarm gusset or other mobility focused construction?


