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reetpleat said:Am I the only one here who kind of digs the lte sixties.
Probably.
I happen to have some ties from the 70s I want to get rid of. Interested? They are "creative, but still pretty simple, dark colors, modish etc."
reetpleat said:Am I the only one here who kind of digs the lte sixties.
jamespowers said:The complete opposite is true of my grandparents. I am ten times better off. [huh]
Quote the source so I can understand where that is coming from.
RedPop4 said:Some excellent points, James and Doran. A lift of the cigar, to you.
The WW II generation and my parents' generation....born in the early 30's....knew what it was to be without, and how to save and make do to have it built up. Their kids, they indulged (as if I'm not.....but I digress) so they wouldn't have to live hand-to-mouth like so many of their parents did. And we see where it's got us.
The Black Panther episode, and the blind support they got from the "vanguard of the Movement" and that uncritical attitude are really what put Horowitz over the edge.
reetpleat said:but a working man has to go above and beyond these days to get anywhere.
jamespowers said:And your grandparents didn't?! You forget about the Depression they went through, the World War, the Cold War and working during a time before OSHA and other work environment improvements. They worked hard and died early because of it. My grandfather worked in a foundry for decades before getting emphysema and dying at 70. My grandmother worked two weeks days/two weeks alternating nightshifts at Gerber's for decades as well. Her house was always immaculate, her husband and son came home to home cooked meals. The washing, cooking, cleaning, dusting, mopping and ironing also got done on that work schedule. They earned everything they got through hard work. Tell me where you have people doing that kind of hard work today---or even who would actually do it for the pay they were getting?
They were going above and beyond every single day. That's how they got somewhere. My grandmother always used to say: "Hard work never killed anybody." From what I see today, it just might. :eusa_doh: To say any less is an affront to their(all people of that generation really) memory and hard work. :kick:
Regards,
J
**********reetpleat said:Is that a good thing that people have to work hard for little again?
That's wise, too bad those who constantly cry for an increase of the minimum wage can't seem to understand this.To remain in a field that is designed to be a stepping stone to other things is ones own limiting influence.
John in Covina said:If one chooses the wrong job and expects it to support a family, it is not the job's fault or the company's fault. An employee always has to make his or her own needs their own consideration. Never expect a company to keep your well being first, that is your responsibility. When cars came on the scene and the buggy whip manufacturers were failing, it was the time as a worker to consider changing fields and maybe getting training or education to better ones self.
Diamondback said:My question: "Where has the responsibility gone?"
jamespowers said:Put that too music with a bunch of hippies singing and you have the answer.
Diamondback said:Oh, OUCH! Two-thirds of a pun, sir!
John in Covina said:An employee always has to make his or her own needs their own consideration.
Senator Jack said:If they thought they could put two more cents in their own pockets, management would fire a twenty year veteran and then have security escort him to the door.
Diamondback said:From the flipside, why should corporations be loyal?