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What Jacket is this?

Buckets

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Does anyone know the name of the jacket the singer is wearing in this video, or where to get one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-c94VVU7zc

Unfortunately the video quality isn't the best and you never get a really good look at it. But if you know as much about these things as you guys seem to, you can probably identify it.
Thanks alot guys!
 

Tomasso

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Buckets said:
if you know as much about these things as you guys seem to, you can probably identify it.
Hi Buckets, you do know that the Fedora Lounge is all about vintage, don't you? ;)

The jacket that interests you is probably current designer wear, and possibly custom made stage wear. Your best bet would be to inquire at the forum on the band's website.
 

Edward

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I'd say the "short trench coat" idea is exactly what it is - I've seen him (Matt Bellamy) wear them in various photoshoots for the NME before now. Basically it's the same thing as a regular trenchcoat, but instead of being full length, it cuts of mid-thigh - "three quarter length" to use the proper terminology. I'm not sure when these first became available as civilian wear. I know I've seen 70s Burberrys in this style. During WW2, the US Army had something called a "jeep coat" - similar to a trechcoat, but cut to this shorter length by design. The body was still protected from wet weather, but there wasn't a long jacket sticking out underneath the seat, around the lower leg which might get in the way of driving / movement. I suppose too (bearing in mind military standards on appearance) a shorter coat wouldn't wrinkle up the same as a long one where a chunk of it is being sat on and screwed up all the time, thus helping to preserve a smarter look. As far as I can make out, these were very similar to a peacoat, but more "waterproof" and I think closer to a trench in weight (i.e. an autumn / spring jacket rather than a winter coat). Schott make a modern version of this now:

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I have to admit I'm somewhat tempted by one of these if it is light enough for Summer wear - while I feel that a full length overcoat is what is appropriate with a suit or blazer, for casual wear a three quarter length can be very practical. Something like this would be much more stylish for rainwear in the warmer months than a Goretex, pac a mac or similar! No idea how far the current Schott model conforms to the WW2 era design, but it does seem to have something of a pedigree from that era as a generic design (its parents, the trenchcoat and the peacoat, of course had both been around some time prior to 1930).

I'm sure there's someone on here that knows more about jeep coats (the sum total of my knowledge is as above!! :eek: ), might be worth looking for them on the WW2 end of the FL?

Added:

I found some further information here:

http://www.olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_clothing_combat_ww2_mackinaw.php

It appears that jeep coats were a winter garment, something closer to a pea coat in terms of warmth (blanket wool lined) than a trench coat. They looked like a hybrid of the two - here's a photo of a repro being sold on eBay:

[Edit: I had to cut this out as nearly the entire auction page was the one image and I don't want to break site rules. If you look on eBay though you'll find them easy enough if you're interested.]

This was an early one. The mark 3 looks much more like a trench coat, though it seems by then they had dispensed with the belt:

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Further:

http://www.quanonline.com/military/military_reference/american/mackinaw_3_coat.html

I hope this is of some interest to folks - I'm sure as I say there's a lot of people out there to whom this is all old hat, but I've learned something looking it up, so I figured I'd pass it on for anyone else similarly in the dark cause it sparked my interest....

Anyone who Knows These Things have a better insight into whether there is a more direct Golden Age fore-runner of the three quarter length trench?
 

Edward

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Spitfire said:
In Italy I saw a short version Burberry. From Burberry...that is. Could it be that???


More than likely. Assuming their record company is playing fair, those Muse boys won't be short of a bob or two, and can certainly afford Burberry!
 

Edward

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BellyTank said:
More likely a designer piece-
It has zip/s in the body.
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Ah ha! I couldn't see those - must be a different one I confused it with, then. Could well be Vivienne Westwood, then - her signature is traditional British style with juxataposed quirks - that'd be right up her street. If Vicious was pictured wearing somethinmg similar, that makes it being a Westwood piece all the more likely.
 

Mike K.

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I recall seeing something like that among some old military surplus. It was a navy pea coat - not U.S. but something else like German, Swedish, or Russian surplus.
 

Fast

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short trench coat

The short trench coat is, or used to be, a car coat. The original design was roughly the automotive equivalent of a short duster, then got double breasted.

I had one as a child and my motther told me about it.

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