These are fine examples of the weird Japanese fit imo. Size 42 with 21.5 ptp or 44 with a 22.5 ptp lol. Doesn't make any sense.
Wait til you get my age and have to think about hiding that growing midsection somewhere...
These are fine examples of the weird Japanese fit imo. Size 42 with 21.5 ptp or 44 with a 22.5 ptp lol. Doesn't make any sense.
Do you own it Marc? Looks great!
Nope, I've sold all my cafe racers except one: the HD one pocket Sportster. The best cr ever made imo.Do you own it Marc? Looks great!
I would take the same size, but it fits tighter on me. I really like this jacket more than I expected I would after handling it in person. Personally for my fit preferences, I think it looks awesome from the front, but the back looks a touch loose, what are your thoughts?
Depends on the model, I think throughout they have high flat boxy shoulders. Their D-pocket has a nice v-taper but high armholes and tight chest for me personally. Their cafe racer is much too wide at the waist for me, feels like very little waist taper and just rather slim throughout.The Flat Head is a brand that seems to have a wider shoulder / narrower hem (body) to their patterns. Might work better for some here.
This is really true, dismissing a whole country's output of leather jackets is doing yourself a disservice. I tried on many leather jackets in Japan and they all had different fits, while some were not for me, it's probably the perfect fit for another person. Don't knock it til you try it, although it's kinda difficult unless you have a local retailer with your size...There are still some NOS RMC J100 in the original pattern, narrower shoulder, wider chest, more aggressive taper, in 44 and 46 last time I checked at the old pricing from the indie retailers not the RMC affiliated ones. The model number without the additional 1 in the front and white inside pocket instead of black. The current one with the additional 1 in the model number has wider shoulder, slimmer chest and more )( fit, and much more expensive, black pockets.
It is easy to categorize all jackets from Japan under one umbrella, would anyone categorize all jackets from US under one umbrella?
The Western retailers are selling Japanese jackets at a huge premium. The Japanese retailers are also selling American jackets at a huge premium. But those numbers are very skewed. Much like all numbers mentioned here. Judging the book by its cover will get the result of judging the book by its cover, you’ll miss out the interesting content inside…. And defeat the number purpose (to me) of having a hobby, is to enjoy it.
The fit felt good. Arms felt tight but I'm sure that was because it's a brand new jacket, needs to be broken in. I think it looks good from the back too tbh.I would take the same size, but it fits tighter on me. I really like this jacket more than I expected I would after handling it in person. Personally for my fit preferences, I think it looks awesome from the front, but the back looks a touch loose, what are your thoughts?
I forgot to ask, how was the weather in May? Did you like that month to travel?The fit felt good. Arms felt tight but I'm sure that was because it's a brand new jacket, needs to be broken in. I think it looks good from the back too tbh.
Overall though I feel like it's a lot of money for such a simple / basic jacket.
May was perfect. In June you could feel it getting much more humid. Still doable on days with some overcast but when the sky was clear city centers quickly got (too) hot.I forgot to ask, how was the weather in May? Did you like that month to travel?
Fountainhead size 42, two inch drop chest to hem, back length is only 25". P2P is 21.5" drops down to 20.5"
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Toys Mccoy Elvis, same drop ratio as above just one size bigger, 44, P2P is 22.5" drops down to 21.5"
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The Most drops Japanese jackets I have is actually the Toys Mccoy Durable, drops from 22.5" down to 19.5", size 42:
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The La Brea I have is a 44, drops down from 23" to 21":
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All the Japanese G-1 jackets I have have the 5" to 6" drop, all size 42,
Colimbo, Rainbow, Rainbow, Real Mccoys
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Japanese Half belts have is the same drop 2" ratio, some has the tuck at the waist so no cinch needed, so are straight. I don't like Half belts...
And Let's not forget High Notch, another drop 6", but normal for Cafe Racer, and the J-100 RMC Buco is a drop 5" as well:
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I have always suspected what RM did with the J-24 later version is to copy the contemporary Lewis Leather Lightning cut that became popular around that time in the fashion world.Huh, this proves my point more than anything else could.
You have an excellent figure and good posture, but the effectively no-drop look of these jackets (except the High Large, the RMC, and the TMC Durable) look like sacks hanging designed for a beer belly. What a waste of such good leather and workmanship if the patterns are like this!
Meanwhile when I see you in Aeros and Schotts (or the High Large, RMC, and Durable), it doesn't have that effect at all.
I guess we're seeing different things. Or at least focusing on different things.Huh, this proves my point more than anything else could.
You have an excellent figure and good posture, but the effectively no-drop look of these jackets (except the High Large, the RMC, and the TMC Durable) look like sacks hanging designed for a beer belly. What a waste of such good leather and workmanship if the patterns are like this!
Meanwhile when I see you in Aeros and Schotts (or the High Large, RMC, and Durable), it doesn't have that effect at all.
Also, I found personally nice cafe racer pattern is the hardest to nail for me, I tried Flat Head, Schott, and some others slipping my mind. Most of the time, they don't have a nice shape on my body especially with my less than ideal body shape. That's why I'm quite drawn to the Real McCoys J-100, even though it's quite expensive, coming from looking at even modern Rainbow Country prices, it seems quite high, for even a basic pattern. But I really like their current model, it feels a touch tight though, but looks really good. I hope to get one soon, or hopefully find one on the second hand market for a deal.There are still some NOS RMC J100 in the original pattern, narrower shoulder, wider chest, more aggressive taper, in 44 and 46 last time I checked at the old pricing from the indie retailers not the RMC affiliated ones. The model number without the additional 1 in the front and white inside pocket instead of black. The current one with the additional 1 in the model number has wider shoulder, slimmer chest and more )( fit, and much more expensive, black pockets.
It is easy to categorize all jackets from Japan under one umbrella, would anyone categorize all jackets from US under one umbrella?
The Western retailers are selling Japanese jackets at a huge premium. The Japanese retailers are also selling American jackets at a huge premium. But those numbers are very skewed. Much like all numbers mentioned here. Judging the book by its cover will get the result of judging the book by its cover, you’ll miss out the interesting content inside…. And defeat the number purpose (to me) of having a hobby, is to enjoy it.
I want to try many vintage cafe races, Bates, Brooks, Cal, HD, but since my bad luck with fitting them I am a bit hesitant. Also being across in Australia basically guarantees a hefty shipping charge, and it's a bit annoying to sell it on as a result.I found the best fitting Cafe Racer styles are vintage ones.
I have the old RMC J-100 in size 42. I would want a 44 in that pattern now I have an extra inch around the belly.Also, I found personally nice cafe racer pattern is the hardest to nail for me, I tried Flat Head, Schott, and some others slipping my mind. Most of the time, they don't have a nice shape on my body especially with my less than ideal body shape. That's why I'm quite drawn to the Real McCoys J-100, even though it's quite expensive, coming from looking at even modern Rainbow Country prices, it seems quite high, for even a basic pattern. But I really like their current model, it feels a touch tight though, but looks really good. I hope to get one soon, or hopefully find one on the second hand market for a deal.