Trying to find a collar like this:

[Tomasso]

I believe that a tailor could make a tunic shirt by simply removing the collar of a regular shirt and finishing the band with buttonholes to accommodate the studs for attaching the collar. I can't see a fee of much more then $20 for such an alteration.

 

[Fidena]

J Peterman offers some tunic shirts.

http://www.jpeterman.com/Mens-Shirts/Gatsby-Shirt

 

[Patrick Hall]

Converting a tunic shirt is an easy task for a tailor. They simply snip the collar and add a button hole on the back to secure the detachable collar into place. All of my clergy shirts are standard dress shirts that were thus altered.

 

[Annixter]

Thanks for the links and information. A problem I'm going to face having a collared dress shirt converted is that I'm looking for a formal black-tie shirt. I'm having problems finding shirts in the US that take stud fasteners and have single cuffs, let alone a detachable collar. I can find collared tuxedo shirts with French/double cuffs, but no single cuffs.

 

[Tomasso]

First off, single cuffs are for Formal (White Tie) but that said.......a tailor can convert double cuffs to single cuffs in two shakes of a.........

 

[Annixter]

First off, single cuffs are for Formal (White Tie) but that said.......a tailor can convert double cuffs to single cuffs in two shakes of a.........

From my understanding of vintage 1930s/1940s attire guidelines, a stiff-front, single-cuff shirt should be worn with both white and black tie attire. Double cuffs with black tie might be acceptable but less formal, similar to wearing a double-breasted jacket as opposed to a single.

While I certainly appreciate the feedback on having the collar and cuffs altered by a tailor, so as to not seem dismissive, it seems like a more expensive way to go (buying a new shirt to have it modified) than other options that must be available in the US. Or do only Englishmen wear classic-style tuxedo shirts anymore?

Marc, I'll call Amazon Drygoods tomorrow. I cannot tell if their collarless shirt has buttons or if the display has studs, and their description, or lack thereof, says nothing about cuff options or if the face is at all stiff.

 

[LoveMyHats2]

From my understanding of vintage 1930s/1940s attire guidelines, a stiff-front, single-cuff shirt should be worn with both white and black tie attire. Double cuffs with black tie might be acceptable but less formal, similar to wearing a double-breasted jacket as opposed to a single.

While I certainly appreciate the feedback on having the collar and cuffs altered by a tailor, so as to not seem dismissive, it seems like a more expensive way to go (buying a new shirt to have it modified) than other options that must be available in the US. Or do only Englishmen wear classic-style tuxedo shirts anymore?

Marc, I'll call Amazon Drygoods tomorrow. I cannot tell if their collarless shirt has buttons or if the display has studs, and their description, or lack thereof, says nothing about cuff options or if the face is at all stiff.

I have shirts for wearing with dinner jacket/tux in both types of cuffs, and found them at a tux rental shop. One had been worn, 3 had not been used. I offered the store manager $65.00 for all of them. At first he said no, but changed his mind. So I got them. You may find some tux rental places and check them out in your area, they will sell items at times, and no matter what, cash they like even if they do not already have a "for sale" sign on items. The shirts were not my first "find" at a tux rental shop.

 

[Annixter]

Too late.....

If you want to take offense and make it public because I'm not outwardly enthusiastic about your propositions, that's an issue for you to deal with rather than some wrong I've done. I have already said I appreciate everyone's input (input I keep it in mind as an alternative) which is the opposite of dismissive. My original question asked for American alternatives to the above three tuxedo shirts; your response is to buy a totally different shirt and have it altered. I'm not willing to go that route, yet, and if you have a problem with that, you are welcome to purchase a new shirt and have it altered for me.

I have shirts for wearing with dinner jacket/tux in both types of cuffs, and found them at a tux rental shop.

The thought to check local tuxedo rental shops for old stock never crossed my mind. That seems like a good place to look. Thanks for that.

 

[Tomasso]

My original question asked for American alternatives to the above three tuxedo shirts

Your original question made No mention of a formal shirt. This thread is Not about formal shirts and they had not been discussed until you brought them up.....after I had provided an inexpensive alternative to the $190 custom shirt that you decried. I could not care less if you use my advice but right now I wish I had not taken the time to respond to your question.

 

[Annixter]

The original topic of this thread had nothing to do with shirts to begin with (the topic was collars actually). The thread has evolved to discuss shirts (by the op's own doing), and the three above links (Darcy, Bromley, and Lewin) go to pages including single cuff, collarless shirts, which is what my original question asked about. In retrospect I could have been more specific about the cuffs, but that could have easily been resolved with a tactful request for clarification before I later clarified. Furthermore, I said nothing about desiring a $190 shirt but actually the opposite. I don't know why you persist on pushing your argumentative agenda and twisting my words and other posts in this thread to do so, but your berating fashion is unwarranted.

For those interested, I contacted Amazon Drygoods today. Their neckband shirts have buttoned fronts with French cuffs that also have an optional button along with cufflink holes. The collar takes studs.

 

[Nick D]

First off, single cuffs are for Formal (White Tie) but that said.......a tailor can convert double cuffs to single cuffs in two shakes of a.........

You can wear single cuffs with lounge suits. Less common, perhaps, but Jack Kennedy certainly did.

 

[Tomasso]

You can wear single cuffs with lounge suits. Less common, perhaps, but Jack Kennedy certainly did.

It was Bobby. But it was nice of you to chime in.......

 

[Nick D]

Sorry, I always get the Kennedys confused