The safest state to live

[sheeplady]

Lets see if I got this right hand over your stuff,get raped and beaten by some punks that do this 8 or 9 times a year or shoot the S.O.B. yea I can see me allow them to take my sister your sister anyone's sister and have themselves a party on my money,not where I live Maam.It's always ok when it's somebody else's problem just
as long as it doesn't effect us personally.

It is frustrating- don't get me wrong. But the campus has not made it their priority to fix it- most of these things occur a street or two off campus and the best they can recommend is to go in groups, stay off the streets after 10pm (we have classes that go to 9:30pm), etc... The ultra-violent things I have seen (not armed muggings, but rapes or beatings, for instance) occur once a year or so. A few years ago we had a young woman abducted on a street that borders campus and she was gang raped and dumped a few hours later; last year we had a student beaten with water pipes on the edge of campus. That's still too many in my opinion, but it is not like it happens everyday. But there are far too many muggings right off campus and on campus. It just feels like the university doesn't care. And the city doesn't care either because it is technically their territory- off campus.

Hi

In general, our supposed brightest and best (college students) can't be trusted with firearms. Those who can at best hope to keep a job at 711 for the rest of their life can be trusted at 21, but not college students on campus. Go figure. I haven't been on that many college campus's, but all of them I've been to are weapon free zones.

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We're not even allowed to carry pepper spray on campus- it's against the student code of conduct because it's a weapon. If you're caught with a weapon you face expulsion. Although, I don't think (or I hope) they wouldn't prosecute/ punish a student who used a weapon against an attacker. But to be perfectly honest, I don't trust our current administration to not push the issue and make the stupid decision to hurt a victim further.

 

[bulldog1935]

the safest I have ever felt was at a NASCAR race.
the only thing that stays out is glass bottles.
You can bring in your own food, your own canned libations, your pocket knife, and your CCW.
A terrorist or perp doesn't stand a chance.

 

[nice hat dude!]

I'll call in Chuck Norris to pose as a student. They won't think that ever again. lol lol

Could toss in a good helping of Steven Seagal also...

 

[jamespowers]

Could toss in a good helping of Steven Seagal also...

True but I haven't heard anything from him lately.

 

[nice hat dude!]

I think we kind of got off topic all I did was give a list that I found on the web about the safest and unsafest states
as far as going in groups how about... Smith Wesson and their little buddies that fill the cylinder(sorry I couldn't resist)

 

[kiwilrdg]

I still do not think the statistics for a large area like a whole state is a good indication of your relative safety in a given area within that state. I do not even put much faith in the raw statistics for a given area.

 

[1961MJS]

I still do not think the statistics for a large area like a whole state is a good indication of your relative safety in a given area within that state. I do not even put much faith in the raw statistics for a given area.

Hi

That's SOOO true, I lived in a high crime area of Wichita KS, close to two different gated neighborhoods on golf courses. The reason that we were in a high crime area was the Kohl's, Circuit City, Sam's, Walmart, and big liquor store. Most of the crimes were shoplifting or breaking into cars.

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[SHOWSOMECLASS]

First, not trying to flame anyone here nor am I trying to start a statistical diatribe.
The most dangerous city's have safe neighborhoods and the safest city's also have bad neighborhoods.

Let me state I was born and raised here. I have been assigned to four of the ten fire stations in my town. So every time someone needs emergency help our station personnel are dispatched. This doesn't make me a authority on crime. Only trying to state what my perspective is on the safety of our city and its suburbs. Some of the guys I work w/ are part time EMS employees for other suburbs and surrounding community's. So we discuss (compare) differences in the nature, type and most of all QUANTITY of certain types of Ems calls.

That said, like most large city's we have a homeless element that exists primarily near downtown. The city has a homeless shelter there and large YMCA/YWCA's, a large WARM skywalk system between the office blgs. A brand new WARM library, science center and green space park. The city's two largest hospitals are also w/in walking distance of the downtown area. Some of the churches downtown have soup kitchens and offer a place to stay the night. For those who choose to be independent of the shelters, their are a number of small homeless camps along the river.

Case in point, a convenience store downtown requested, and was granted a liquor license. Shortly there after the city council was asked by business owners and residents downtown to reconsider the impact of this decision. It was then decided it was not in the city's best interest to sell liquor in that area. Hmmm why is that? I can buy liquor in my neighborhood.

On a positive note, progressive urban renewel continues downtown. Many of the old warehouses have been converted to lofts and this has attracted the single and young urban professionals. New coffee houses and quaint restaurants have opened. Many cool bars and pubs are now open and w/ in walking distance as well. Their is a weekly outdoor, dog friendly, farmers market that is also very popular and draws many family's from all over.

So their are good reasons to live downtown or near it.

I am not mocking individuals who are down in life and trying to turn things around.
Just a fact: a large majority of those who are not self reliant live close to downtown or its surrounding urban corridors.

If you choose to live in the neighborhoods surrounding the perimeter of downtown you are aware what pro's and con's exist. I don't believe that makes the city as whole unsafe. In fourty six years, I have never been robbed, had my house or car broken into, or physically assaulted. I do not hear gunshots at night, see kids hanging on the corner selling, nor do I hear regular police sirens. I do know in some neighborhoods these things do occur. I have worked in those areas. However, housing in our city is not that high, in most cases a working family who manages its money well can live outside questionable areas if they choose to.

Our city does not deserve a bad rap. The news credo is: if it bleeds it leads. We frequently laugh at work at some of the lame story's that get considerable air time on the local news because their really isn't that much to report.

 

[sheeplady]

First, not trying to flame anyone here nor am I trying to start a statistical diatribe.
The most dangerous city's have safe neighborhoods and the safest city's also have bad neighborhoods.

I think that is true about any place. In the city I live in, I live in a very safe neighborhood. People often leave their doors unlocked. (I also live next door to a police officer, so my street is probably ultra-safe.) There are some segments of the city I will not drive through (and have been told by people who are much more familiar with the area- for instance, have lived there- that I shouldn't drive through there) and there are places that are magnets for crime at certain times of day (like the university area). I don't think that someone who feels unsafe in the area in which they live because of violent crime should have statistics thrown at them to have their experience invalidated. If you feel unsafe, you feel unsafe. No amount of statistics will make you feel safe if you know someone who was a victim of a violent crime in your own neighborhood.

Statistics don't always show all crime, nor do they tend to report per neighborhood yet alone street. There's some places that are patches of violence surrounded by peaceful neighborhoods, and just because the average is low doesn't mean that we shouldn't be aware of the crime or try to do anything about it.