The Bowler or Derby Hat

[ofcoursemyhorse]

Stetson Standard Quality

 

[alanfgag]

Very nice collection.

I have a few that make me thankful to have ears to use as hat stops.

 

[splintercellsz]

Wow, you pull those off!

 

[mayserwegener]

F. Witzleben Leipzig Melone

This Melone turned out to be great. I am not sure if it was made by F. Witzleben or contracted. The paper label doesn't have any company mark. The felt finish and color are special but difficult to photograph. My guess would be 1920s. Size 57cm and weighs 140 grams.

1910 Advertisement for Fur Hats

 

[alanfgag]

Fantastic and pristine, Steve... congratulations.

 

[mayserwegener]

Alan, Thanks! It was a nice suprise.

 

[Alive'n'Amplified]

I tried calling that phone number. It didn't go through.

Maybe I'll try the telegramme.

 

[ukali1066]

Here's my first ever Bowler, it's a 1930's British fur felt made by Moores & Sons Ltd, it belonged to the sellers Father who was an architect and surveyor....I think I look less trustworthy in it than he did.... I love the high true vintage profile

 

[mayserwegener]

Looks fantastic! Moores & Sons made very high quality Bowlers. By the way great photos!

 

[ukali1066]

Thank you Mayserwegener ! Here's some tickets that were loose under the hatband, lovely Felt hatters and trimmers union ticket !

 

[mayserwegener]

Thanks for posting the detail photos! Looks to be in great condition. I can't make out the first word under "The Zephyrus". I assume (Zephyr is usually associated with lighter weight hats) this is a light weight Bowler. If you have a scale would you mind weighing it (I have gotten on the kick of weighing mine)?

 

[Chepstow]

Looks fantastic! Moores & Sons made very high quality Bowlers. By the way great photos!

Famtastic!

 

[ukali1066]

Cheers guys, I don't have scales to weigh it, but it's light, the text says "Zephyrus imperceptible weight"

 

[mayserwegener]

Thanks! Makes sense that it's a light weight based on "Zephyrus imperceptible weight". So far I haven't come across any that are lighter than ~ 115 grams.

 

[alanfgag]

Yep, that under 4 ounce bowler/derby is a holy grail hat.

The typography of Moores on the sweat and one the size ticket is the bomb... fantastic hat overall. Thanks for the photos.

 

[mayserwegener]

Alan, What is the lighest you have encountered? I know Manfred's Rehfus & Cie. and my wool Negretti (German but not sure who made it) are ~ 115 grams.

 

[alanfgag]

I tried to find a post where I noted the weight of this Premier Quality Featherweight but I can't find it now. I don't believe it was less than 115. I will bring it back in to the office and weigh it on the postal scale.

 

[mayserwegener]

Alan, I seem to recall that too. I definitely would be interested in knowing how much it weighs.

 

[ofcoursemyhorse]

I'm sure this has been posted before, but just in case it hasnt.

 

[ofcoursemyhorse]

Oh and the Moore Bowler I posted last page back is a featherette, extra lightweight. I'd assume his being labeled imperceptible would probably be the lighter of the two.