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Good morning. It struck me this morning as I was wearing a vtg.Stetson Vogue that the edge binding was similar to a vtg.Stetson Whippet. Please check the pictures below as I tried to satisfy my curiosity.
The crown of the Vogue is 1/2 higher.
Felt treatment is different. Both hats were marketed at different quality points. The Whippet is of Royal quality and the Vogue is Royal Deluxe.
Deliberate quality different of sweat? No idea, but a difference exists. Leather sweat of Vogue is softer yet is denser than the Whippet.
Edge treatment of the Vogue is magnificent in that it has fine stitching with matching thread. The care taken in this model is elegant. Even, fine stitching that stands out. The Whippet is done very well, just bigger stitches in a contrasting stitch. The same amount of edge binding is on the top edge.
Similar, but different. Lovely examples of the fine vintage hats that were made by Stetson.
I hope you enjoyed my exploration piqued by my edge curiousity of these two vintage hats. Terrible weather conditions make the pics of lower quality than I desired. I think they still illustrate the important features.
Best, Eric -
The crown of the Vogue is 1/2 higher.
Felt treatment is different. Both hats were marketed at different quality points. The Whippet is of Royal quality and the Vogue is Royal Deluxe.
Deliberate quality different of sweat? No idea, but a difference exists. Leather sweat of Vogue is softer yet is denser than the Whippet.
Edge treatment of the Vogue is magnificent in that it has fine stitching with matching thread. The care taken in this model is elegant. Even, fine stitching that stands out. The Whippet is done very well, just bigger stitches in a contrasting stitch. The same amount of edge binding is on the top edge.
Similar, but different. Lovely examples of the fine vintage hats that were made by Stetson.
I hope you enjoyed my exploration piqued by my edge curiousity of these two vintage hats. Terrible weather conditions make the pics of lower quality than I desired. I think they still illustrate the important features.
Best, Eric -
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Good morning. It struck me this morning as I was wearing a vtg.Stetson Vogue that the edge binding was similar to a vtg.Stetson Whippet. Please check the pictures below as I tried to satisfy my curiosity.
The crown of the Vogue is 1/2 higher.
Felt treatment is different. Both hats were marketed at different quality points. The Whippet is of Royal quality and the Vogue is Royal Deluxe.
Deliberate quality different of sweat? No idea, but a difference exists. Leather sweat of Vogue is softer yet is denser than the Whippet.
Edge treatment of the Vogue is magnificent in that it has fine stitching with matching thread. The care taken in this model is elegant. Even, fine stitching that stands out. The Whippet is done very well, just bigger stitches in a contrasting stitch. The same amount of edge binding is on the top edge.
Similar, but different. Lovely examples of the fine vintage hats that were made by Stetson.
I hope you enjoyed my exploration piqued by my edge curiousity of these two vintage hats. Terrible weather conditions make the pics of lower quality than I desired. I think they still illustrate the important features.
Best, Eric -
I very much enjoyed this
I've never seen a Vogue in person
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ThanksGood morning. It struck me this morning as I was wearing a vtg.Stetson Vogue that the edge binding was similar to a vtg.Stetson Whippet. Please check the pictures below as I tried to satisfy my curiosity.
The crown of the Vogue is 1/2 higher.
Felt treatment is different. Both hats were marketed at different quality points. The Whippet is of Royal quality and the Vogue is Royal Deluxe.
Deliberate quality different of sweat? No idea, but a difference exists. Leather sweat of Vogue is softer yet is denser than the Whippet.
Edge treatment of the Vogue is magnificent in that it has fine stitching with matching thread. The care taken in this model is elegant. Even, fine stitching that stands out. The Whippet is done very well, just bigger stitches in a contrasting stitch. The same amount of edge binding is on the top edge.
Similar, but different. Lovely examples of the fine vintage hats that were made by Stetson.
I hope you enjoyed my exploration piqued by my edge curiousity of these two vintage hats. Terrible weather conditions make the pics of lower quality than I desired. I think they still illustrate the important features.
Best, Eric -
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Yes, I really enjoy these comparisons. I learn a lot from just hanging around. Thanks Eric.
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Beautiful comparison, Eric!
Really extraordinary, Eric. Thanks for posting these.Good morning. It struck me this morning as I was wearing a vtg.Stetson Vogue that the edge binding was similar to a vtg.Stetson Whippet. Please check the pictures below as I tried to satisfy my curiosity.
The crown of the Vogue is 1/2 higher.
Felt treatment is different. Both hats were marketed at different quality points. The Whippet is of Royal quality and the Vogue is Royal Deluxe.
Deliberate quality different of sweat? No idea, but a difference exists. Leather sweat of Vogue is softer yet is denser than the Whippet.
Edge treatment of the Vogue is magnificent in that it has fine stitching with matching thread. The care taken in this model is elegant. Even, fine stitching that stands out. The Whippet is done very well, just bigger stitches in a contrasting stitch. The same amount of edge binding is on the top edge.
Similar, but different. Lovely examples of the fine vintage hats that were made by Stetson.
I hope you enjoyed my exploration piqued by my edge curiousity of these two vintage hats. Terrible weather conditions make the pics of lower quality than I desired. I think they still illustrate the important features.
Best, Eric -
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Borsalino Alessandria in Silverbelly vs Akubra Campdraft in Silverbelly...
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Optimo Chicago, Optimo Dearborn, Optimo International...
All are nice looking,but I really like the shape of the Dearborn.
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I was thinking the same thing Bob. Konadog, I like the straight sided edges on that Dearborn.
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Thanks for sharing your very special Optimo hats, Borsalino and Akubra. These hats appear infrequently. I enjoy the Dearborn and Borso imensely.
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i'm glad people dig the Optimo Dearborn. wife got me that for xmas last year. it's their silverbelly that comes only from the belly of the beaver - it's not dyed.
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I have to agree, the Dearborn is immediately an eye catching hat. Such a classic profile, in a refined color scheme. Sharp
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Both are lovely Eric.Good morning. It struck me this morning as I was wearing a vtg.Stetson Vogue that the edge binding was similar to a vtg.Stetson Whippet. Please check the pictures below as I tried to satisfy my curiosity.
The crown of the Vogue is 1/2 higher.
Felt treatment is different. Both hats were marketed at different quality points. The Whippet is of Royal quality and the Vogue is Royal Deluxe.
Deliberate quality different of sweat? No idea, but a difference exists. Leather sweat of Vogue is softer yet is denser than the Whippet.
Edge treatment of the Vogue is magnificent in that it has fine stitching with matching thread. The care taken in this model is elegant. Even, fine stitching that stands out. The Whippet is done very well, just bigger stitches in a contrasting stitch. The same amount of edge binding is on the top edge.
Similar, but different. Lovely examples of the fine vintage hats that were made by Stetson.
I hope you enjoyed my exploration piqued by my edge curiousity of these two vintage hats. Terrible weather conditions make the pics of lower quality than I desired. I think they still illustrate the important features.
Best, Eric -
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1915 Stetson"The Event"
1915-1917 Dobbs
Both of these hats, though from different manufacturer, are extremely close in age. The Stetson was produced during the fall of 1915, whereas the Dobbs was produced sometime between 1915 and 1917.
As you can see in the photographs, each hats is every single shade, as long as it's black. The Stetson absorbs light, and is as black as black can get. The dobbs, the black and color, exhumes slight greenish undertones, depending on the lighting.
Each hat has some beautiful ribbon work. The Stetson has the usual bow, which can be seen on many of their hats, whereas the Dobbs has this interesting treatment done with fraying on both the leading and following edges. Each hats are up brims, which means that they were flange to have the brim worn upward. The Stetson has an over welts, with a single row of stitching, which I photographed. The Dobbs has a very early Cavanaugh Edge, which was patented in 1913. I've included both photographs of the edge, and of the sweatband embossing showing the patent
Each hat, in hand, weighs the same. Though the Stetson does have a denser feel to it. Looking on the inside of each hat, the Stetson is readed, whereas the Dobbs has the sweatband attached directly to the felt. The Stetson has a sizing ribbon which, sadly has worn a part in its lifetime, but was used to adjust the size of the Hat by pulling on the back of the ribbon that would be protruded through the sweatband. The Dobbs, does not have this feature, but has a beautifully executed knot at the rear of the sweatband.
The embossing on each sweatband is truly beautiful examples of the time period, the Stetson has gold leaf, or foil, inlaid in each of the embossing, whereas the Dobbs only has it laid into the store logo.
With each hat in open Crown, be Stetson Crown blocking is extremely straight. When looking at the side profile of the Dobbs, you can notice Crown taper. Very interesting
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1915-1917 Dobbs
Both of these hats, though from different manufacturer, are extremely close in age. The Stetson was produced during the fall of 1915, whereas the Dobbs was produced sometime between 1915 and 1917.
As you can see in the photographs, each hats is every single shade, as long as it's black. The Stetson absorbs light, and is as black as black can get. The dobbs, the black and color, exhumes slight greenish undertones, depending on the lighting.
Each hat has some beautiful ribbon work. The Stetson has the usual bow, which can be seen on many of their hats, whereas the Dobbs has this interesting treatment done with fraying on both the leading and following edges. Each hats are up brims, which means that they were flange to have the brim worn upward. The Stetson has an over welts, with a single row of stitching, which I photographed. The Dobbs has a very early Cavanaugh Edge, which was patented in 1913. I've included both photographs of the edge, and of the sweatband embossing showing the patent
Each hat, in hand, weighs the same. Though the Stetson does have a denser feel to it. Looking on the inside of each hat, the Stetson is readed, whereas the Dobbs has the sweatband attached directly to the felt. The Stetson has a sizing ribbon which, sadly has worn a part in its lifetime, but was used to adjust the size of the Hat by pulling on the back of the ribbon that would be protruded through the sweatband. The Dobbs, does not have this feature, but has a beautifully executed knot at the rear of the sweatband.
The embossing on each sweatband is truly beautiful examples of the time period, the Stetson has gold leaf, or foil, inlaid in each of the embossing, whereas the Dobbs only has it laid into the store logo.
With each hat in open Crown, be Stetson Crown blocking is extremely straight. When looking at the side profile of the Dobbs, you can notice Crown taper. Very interesting
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