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AbbaDatDeHat

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Things are going well here, thank you.

I think I remember when you got the CG coat years ago. If I remember correctly, the CG tags are identical to the Navy tags. At least the ones I have seen are identical.
For reference:
2 different labels, 2 different CG peacoats.
Also, i believe i have seen somewhere labels for CG peacoats that have Coast Guard included on the label as opposed to Navy.
I’m thinking maybe it was on more modern versions. Idk
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spoonbelly1950

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Yes, doing well, thank you.

Don't recall seeing one with CG on the tag, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I just don't remember.
Peacoat - I emailed you a photo of a CG tag. I also bought a CG coat quite a few years ago. It had the same tag. I bought it for either my son or my wife. Since there was no interest in it , I resold it on ebay I have found it pretty hard to interest other people in the Peacoat bug. Lets see - there is my wife, my older son, my younger son, my step daughter, and my step son.
 

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Peacoat - I emailed you a photo of a CG tag. I also bought a CG coat quite a few years ago. It had the same tag. I bought it for either my son or my wife. Since there was no interest in it , I resold it on ebay I have found it pretty hard to interest other people in the Peacoat bug. Lets see - there is my wife, my older son, my younger son, my step daughter, and my step son.
The Coast Guard tag you emailed me is a 1947 tag.
 

vintagewool

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Quick important question:

What should the sleeve length in inches be on a 1970 USN-issue peacoat size 42R?

Thank you.
 

vintagewool

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Do you want it measured down along the curve of the elbow or straight down from the shoulder seam?

I'm looking for the mil-spec length, including (now that you mention it) the mil-spec for how to measure that length, whether the elbow method or otherwise.
 

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I'm looking for the mil-spec length, including (now that you mention it) the mil-spec for how to measure that length, whether the elbow method or otherwise.
Not sure that I can help you unless you tell me how you want it measured. And I don't know that there is a "mil-spec" method for measuring sleeve length.
 

spoonbelly1950

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And here is the image of the Coast Guard tag emailed me by Spoon. It is a 1947 tag, or perhaps a 1946 tag. For a tag that is 77 years old, I think hitting the date within a year or two is accurate enough.

Obviously, this tag does show that is a CG peacoat.

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I had bought a CG coat quite a few years ago. I never did find out the date of that coat. I did resell back on eBay. It did have the same CG tag as the tag above.
 

vintagewool

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Not sure that I can help you unless you tell me how you want it measured. And I don't know that there is a "mil-spec" method for measuring sleeve length.

OK, so I can only have 1 number (measurement), and I must pick only from those 2 choices, and only using the words from those 2 choices even if 1 of them is mil-spec? I'll take "straight" for $500, Alex.
 

vintagewool

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If you would tell me what you are trying to accomplish, it might be easier for me to figure out. I've been researching peacoats for 24 years.

Thank you, now that I unambiguously have selected "straight," purpose would be yet another criterion to add to the list, but, fortunately, purpose is often not germane to answer simple questions.

Q: What should the sleeve length in inches be on a 1991 "mil-spec"/"std" USA-issue size-Large-Regular M-65 coat?
A: 19.25in + or - 0.75in (per MIL-C-43455J).

https://quicksearch.dla.mil/qsDocDetails.aspx?ident_number=23626

Q: What should the body length in inches be of a WWII size-42-Regular 1941 field jacket?
A: 27.25in (per TM 10-265).

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...intage-and-reproduction-repro-jackets.114745/

Q: What was the "mil-spec"/"std" method to measure body length in inches of a WWII 1941 field jacket?
A: "The jacket length is measured from the bottom edge of the undercollar at the center of the back, down to the bottom of the jacket." (verbatim per TM 10-265).

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...intage-and-reproduction-repro-jackets.114745/

Q: What should the sleeve length in inches be on a 1970 USN-issue size-42-Regular peacoat?
A: ?

MIL-O-24905 Overcoat, Man's, Reefer (Coast Guard) (No Superseding Document)
MIL-C-16290 100%-melton (shell) peacoat?
? 100%-kersey (shell) peacoat?

Without "mil-spec" and the "mil-spec" for how to measure "mil-spec," there is basically no inspection and no "out of spec."

It's surprising that the famous peacoat lacks easily accessible documentation when compared to other items.

Navy men, Army is winning the documentation war. If you were to let Army beat you in history, you might wake to find this thread re-named, "The Navy's Mackinaw."

https://vintagehaberdashers.com/2014/01/13/m1926-army-mackinaw/
https://vintagehaberdashers.com/2014/02/23/1930s-m1926-army-mackinaw-coat/
https://vintagehaberdashers.com/2014/02/16/1941-jacob-siegel-co-army-mackinaw/
https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/fo.../267081-u-s-army-mackinaw-coats-1907-to-1919/

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clayman03

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Thinking about getting a vintage Navy pea coat. I am 5’6’’, 165-170 lbs, with a 40 inch chest. I am on the leaner side of things. A 40 measured around 42 in the chest on most jackets. Is that typical? Would a 40R be too long? I wear 40s in sport coats.
 

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