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[DaveProc]

Third episode of the Italian hat orphanage
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This is a brand that you all know: Barbisio Sagliano Micca - Biella.
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The hat is a product of the Sixties with a quality that only Barbisio knew how to put in his hats.
"Qualità Extra" Barbisio size 58 full size
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The color of the felt is "Dijon" without other indications.
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The felt is of the superb Barbisio quality, extremely malleable as well as firm in its shape once formed with a "peachy" touch

The color is a beautiful green (Stefan permitting) as is the finish in the same felt as the ribbon
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These are the measurements: the raw brims are at 6.5 centimeters and the crown at its lowest point is at 11 centimeters. Finished with extreme craftsmanship it is no surprise, but a wonderful hat
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Another find of this warm Italian September
It is for sale...

I don't know why, but I am in love with this hat. Too bad it isn't two sizes larger!!

 

[mayserwegener]

Wow! What a beauty, so much to like about this hat, but ribbon/bow treatment is really special.

Dave, Thank you!

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Vita-Felt Process The Madison. The open crown is approximately 5 5/8” and the Mode Edge brim is 2 3/4” wide. I’m guessing early 1940s.

More in the Vita-Felt thread.

 

[Steve1857]

Two great looking hats, Brent. Love the colour of the Stetson. Unusual and interesting features.

Love the classic 1940s look of the Madison.

Both my size btw ;-)

Here’s one I haven’t seen before. It’s a nice Stetson The Sovereign Twenty suede finish in an ice blue color that I love. The felt it soft and easily dry creases. The open crown is approximately 5 1/2 inches and the brim is 2 5/8 inches. It has a braided self-felt band that I haven’t seen on a Twenty before. It also has a new-to-me brim edge treatment. It isn’t the expected felted (Cavanagh/Mode) edge: the edge is capped in a matching piece of felt which gives it an overwelt and underwelt look. The seam of the cap is at the back of the hat and not overly obvious. If anyone has information on this hat I’d enjoy learning.

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Vita-Felt Process The Madison. The open crown is approximately 5 5/8” and the Mode Edge brim is 2 3/4” wide. I’m guessing early 1940s.

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More in the Vita-Felt thread.

 

[steur]

Borsalino qualitá Victoria came in today. A great hat in a very good condition. Thick felt. Unfortunally the brimwidth is about 5,5 cm, i was hoping for 6 cm or more. I didn't ask the seller about it, so it's my own fault. Nevertheless i'm satisfied with it, it looks like it is never worn before.
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A nice find, Marcel. I like these proportions, but then I am two sizes smaller than you.

Here’s one I haven’t seen before. It’s a nice Stetson The Sovereign Twenty suede finish in an ice blue color that I love. The felt it soft and easily dry creases. The open crown is approximately 5 1/2 inches and the brim is 2 5/8 inches. It has a braided self-felt band that I haven’t seen on a Twenty before. It also has a new-to-me brim edge treatment. It isn’t the expected felted (Cavanagh/Mode) edge: the edge is capped in a matching piece of felt which gives it an overwelt and underwelt look. The seam of the cap is at the back of the hat and not overly obvious. If anyone has information on this hat I’d enjoy learning.

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Well, that's certainly a first: a brim binding made of felt! Cool looking hat, Brent.

 

[Frunobulax]

Here’s one I haven’t seen before. It’s a nice Stetson The Sovereign Twenty suede finish in an ice blue color that I love. The felt it soft and easily dry creases. The open crown is approximately 5 1/2 inches and the brim is 2 5/8 inches. It has a braided self-felt band that I haven’t seen on a Twenty before. It also has a new-to-me brim edge treatment. It isn’t the expected felted (Cavanagh/Mode) edge: the edge is capped in a matching piece of felt which gives it an overwelt and underwelt look. The seam of the cap is at the back of the hat and not overly obvious. If anyone has information on this hat I’d enjoy learning.

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So...like a bound brim but the binding is felt?

 

[steur]

Vita-Felt Process The Madison. The open crown is approximately 5 5/8” and the Mode Edge brim is 2 3/4” wide. I’m guessing early 1940s.

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More in the Vita-Felt thread.

Very nice classic look to that hat. Wonderful.

 

[steur]

Went for a bit of shopping this week and actually found two nice hats, even though the vintage hat season hasn't started yet. First one.
Wegener Super homburg in a mid to dark grey. Colour is called "glatz" on the label. Size 59 with the bound brim at 6cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. These "Super" designated Wegener hats have a lovely hand to the felt, but are a bit "springy", that is, they tend to spring back to their form and are not easily persuaded to take just any shape. The felt is quite thin, although the hat isn't that lightweight at 137 grams. Always happy to find a larger sized hat in another colour than black.

 

[steur]

And number two.
Mayser Libelle in a size 56. Bound brim at 6,5cm and the crown sits at 11cm at the center dent. The way the flange is shaped I'm guessing this was meant to be worn brim up or in the "camber" style it has now. When Steve @mayserwegener posted his "Libelle" labelled Mayser hats last week I could not recall having ever seen it (that or I just have poor memory), so I was quite surprised to find this one. Libelle may refer to the weight of the hat even though it's not extremely lightweight at 105 grams.

 

[Daniele Tanto]

In the find, there were some hats in the vendor's photographs that I thought I recognized

This was one of them. "Giuseppe Cambiaghi" size 57 centimeters

Like the others, new/old stock, it comes from the warehouses of tiny hat shops and, however, has the defect of having the sweatband cracked in two places.

This year I found two magnificent hats from this Monza manufacturer that went to make some Nordic Europeans happy.

I was hoping this was some size close to mine instead it is a 57 and completely different in shape from the two found previously.


The black felt is of sublime quality and as always in these hats there is some wool in the composition of the felt.
Also this like the "Tirso" has not very generous measures in the brim, but it was the fashion of that time

This beauty has the following measures: the raw brims are 5 cm and facing upwards, the ribbon is 4.5 cm. and the crown at its lowest point is at 11 centimeters.
Another candidate to the rare find branch

 

[steur]

In the find, there were some hats in the vendor's photographs that I thought I recognized
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This was one of them. "Giuseppe Cambiaghi" size 57 centimeters
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Like the others, new/old stock, it comes from the warehouses of tiny hat shops and, however, has the defect of having the sweatband cracked in two places.
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This year I found two magnificent hats from this Monza manufacturer that went to make some Nordic Europeans happy.
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I was hoping this was some size close to mine instead it is a 57 and completely different in shape from the two found previously.
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The black felt is of sublime quality and as always in these hats there is some wool in the composition of the felt.
Also this like the "Tirso" has not very generous measures in the brim, but it was the fashion of that time
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This beauty has the following measures: the raw brims are 5 cm and facing upwards, the ribbon is 4.5 cm. and the crown at its lowest point is at 11 centimeters.
Another candidate to the rare find branch

The Italian Orphans enter the field with a strong line-up, Daniele. Very cool finds.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Not sure what to do with this. I had some plans, but it’s smaller than what the seller’s measurements led me to believe:

 

[deadlyhandsome]

So...like a bound brim but the binding is felt?

Exactly! A perfect way to describe it. Have you seen another?

 

[steur]

Not sure what to do with this. I had some plans, but it’s smaller than what the seller’s measurements led me to believe:

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Pity; looks like a nice fine weave.

 

[Daniele Tanto]

This Panizza is, for me, a rarity

The reason is that I have never found a hat from the house on Lake Maggiore marked "Marca Oro"

It is a hat from the magnificent part of the Panizza production that was affected more than the other producers in the 1970s by the end of the golden years of Italian hats

This has a great felt called "Edelweis" as color on the paper label which has very little to do with the actual color of the felt

What is great is the ribbon made of the same carved felt as specified on the paper label.
Felt has this hardly yieldable color due to its continuous change in the light of the pale and sunny yellow September.

In the photographs, almost all of them, it is very close to its exact shade which is a brown that goes towards an intense yellow.

The measurements are as follows: the brims with a with a tiny seam are at 6 centimeters, the ribbon is the same color as the felt and the crown at its lowest point is 10.5 centimeters.

The "Marca Oro" has been magically preserved

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

Vita-Felt Process The Madison. The open crown is approximately 5 5/8” and the Mode Edge brim is 2 3/4” wide. I’m guessing early 1940s.

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More in the Vita-Felt thread.

Quite the unicorn hat Brent. Exceptional in every category.
I can only imagine the appreciation in hand.
A def top 10 hat in my book.
B

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Quite the unicorn hat Brent. Exceptional in every category.
I can only imagine the appreciation in hand.
A def top 10 hat in my book.
B

Thanks, Bowen. It’s a great felt that is unlike any of the other vintage felt I’ve handled. It needs to find a new home with someone who appreciates it, but I think it’s a size or two too small for you. Someone is going to be very happy to get this hat.

 

[steur]

This Panizza is, for me, a rarity
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The reason is that I have never found a hat from the house on Lake Maggiore marked "Marca Oro"
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It is a hat from the magnificent part of the Panizza production that was affected more than the other producers in the 1970s by the end of the golden years of Italian hats
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This has a great felt called "Edelweis" as color on the paper label which has very little to do with the actual color of the felt
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What is great is the ribbon made of the same carved felt as specified on the paper label.
Felt has this hardly yieldable color due to its continuous change in the light of the pale and sunny yellow September.
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In the photographs, almost all of them, it is very close to its exact shade which is a brown that goes towards an intense yellow.
View attachment 362409 The measurements are as follows: the brims with a with a tiny seam are at 6 centimeters, the ribbon is the same color as the felt and the crown at its lowest point is 10.5 centimeters.
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The "Marca Oro" has been magically preserved

Fantastic! What a find!

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

Thanks, Bowen. It’s a great felt that is unlike any of the other vintage felt I’ve handled. It needs to find a new home with someone who appreciates it, but I think it’s a size or two too small for you. Someone is going to be very happy to get this hat.

I’m still a 1/8-1/4 unless i get excited then...oh nvm.
Vita-Felt is a strange animal to me. Of the 4 i have each one is different in the hand.
Odd the variability for such a short production run of @ 42’-47’, i believe.
Your Madison presents as the thin dense moldable variety we all love to pet.
Ymmv
B

 

[deadlyhandsome]

I’m still a 1/8-1/4 unless i get excited then...oh nvm.
Vita-Felt is a strange animal to me. Of the 4 i have each one is different in the hand.
Odd the variability for such a short production run of @ 42’-47’, i believe.
Your Madison presents as the thin dense moldable variety we all love to pet.
Ymmv
B

I thought from that Churchill 50 in 7 3/8 that went from me to an intermediary then to you that you were in the 7 1/4 to 7 3/8 range.