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[Hat and Rehat]

Love it! I saw it too and if it was one size larger....


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Do I hear an echo?

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[Hat and Rehat]

This 1960s Stetson 3X was stained and in need of some attention, but there was a decent hat hiding there.

As received:

In progress: 3.5” bound brim, 6 3/4” open crown, six cord ribbon.

First outing: the Mariposa County courthouse is the oldest continually operating courthouse west of the Mississippi.

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Good job, DH! I was just unable to get all of the crease stains out of an OR of that vintage. I'm sure what I needed was cyanide potassiam, but the only place to get it anymore is in the molars of British spies.

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[Hat and Rehat]

A local eBay find at a Thrift store price...and only 10 miles away, no shipping necessary!

Crofut & Knapp straw. (To be honest, I don't know if this is a Milan or Hemp) with a 2 inch brim, 2 1/4 pugg. Seller says 60's model but I don't have enough background on C&K to say one way or the other. Nice even weave and flexible straw, so it should make for a good summer hat. The pugg is not my style and it seems to overpower the short brim, so I'll probably change it during the winter season. This will complement my C&K Panama, also very nice!

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C&K Panama

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Awesome grab! Did you get the twin for me?

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[Hat and Rehat]

Thanks Steve. I'll keep the pugg a while and see how it goes. And yes, I like this shirt a lot too. Temps still near 100F here all week, so I have to do something to stay cool.

Keep the pug a while?
Somebody call a doctor.

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[Hat and Rehat]

Kevin at JJ hat has posted new colors of the Stetson Open Road hats in stock for 2020.

Break out those credit cards

Here's some other new models of Stetson for 2020

I like some of those colors, but isn't Kevin the knucklehead who is aghast anyone would clean their hats in gas?

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[Hat and Rehat]

I called them on the phone and got right through. They are open Tues to Sat. A western weight pure beaver runs $650, knock a hundred off if there's a floor model in you size. Custom runs 3 to 4 months out. I asked about their website and they said it's still under construction. I may stop by his shop later this month while visiting my daughter in Utah. Would love seeing his shop.

I hate it when people can't ****le every ball at the same time.

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[steur]

I have overwhelming empathy for you after such a dismal day hunting hats.
Smart Aleck!

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My heart is bleeding.

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Can you believe I actually had the same experience this weekend looking for hats at Amsterdam's biggest carboot-sale?

 

[steur]

Visited Amsterdam's biggest carboot-sale this weekend and waded through 750 stalls of mainly second hand and vintage clothing. All of ten decent hats to be found, two if which were worth bringing back with me. This is the first one.
Modern Borsalino in mirtillo colour. Size 56, unlined, with the underwelt brim at 6cm and crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Very lightweight hat at only 82 grams and, for a nice change with Borsalino, this one doesn't run small. And it's blue, so it had to come. There was a period when Borsalino struggled with the quality of their hats. This one has all the quality you'd expect of this brand though.

These dark blue hats tend to look black in most pictures, so I've put it next to a black Stetson Imperial homburg for comparison.

 

[steur]

This is the second hat I found this weekend at Amsterdam's biggest carboot-sale. The vendor actually had two of these: one in black and this one (the black one had some staining I wasn't sure I could get out, so I left it there).
Kingson in mirtillo, size 58 with the bound brim at 5,5cm and crown at 10cm at the center dent. Made especially for J. Pul of Amsterdam.
Here is the brand represented on one of their business postcards; Kingson hats America.

There is however nothing American about this hat as it was made in Italy. I suspect probably by Cervo, judging by the size label. It is possible however that Borsalino was the maker. Firma San Giorgi n.v. was the importer for Borsalino in the Netherlands.
Here's the shop of J. Pul on Muntplein 5 in Amsterdam (note the prominent sign of Brummel's hats, a brand I suspect was also made in Italy).

Anyway. Here's the hat. Lovely simple ribbed ribbon on it.

 

[steur]

Part II

Here are the remaining shots.

Here's the label, that gives it away as an Italian made hat. Nadir was a quality that was also used by Borsalino. Borsalino however had Cervo make hats for them on occasion.

Here's the hat next to the black Stetson Imperial homburg.

 

[Daniele Tanto]

Recently arrived from France

French made hat in black felt. The producer E.P. (unnidentified for now) was in Chazelle sur Lyon, the capital of the hats production in the Loire district

The hat, from my experience in French production, was made in the twenty or in the thirties

The proportions are as follows: raw brim 5,5 cm. open crown at 12,5 and the ribbon is 5 cm.

Very silky and malleable felt, it contains a part of wool as most of the hats in that period.
The sweatband, light, is very similar to the Sools Steur has in his collection

The inside is a worn patch that could one of the numerous producers in the capital of French hats

Under the sweatband there this paper label write by hand. No indications of size, but it is a 55 cm or 6 7/8 US
No stamps on the sweatband

It was used, but for the its age in a perfect shape, no moths, no flaws

 

[steur]

Recently arrived from France
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French made hat in black felt. The producer E.P. (unnidentified for now) was in Chazelle sur Lyon, the capital of the hats production in the Loire district
View attachment 186006 The hat, from my experience in French production, was made in the twenty or in the thirties
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The proportions are as follows: raw brim 5,5 cm. open crown at 12,5 and the ribbon is 5 cm.
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Very silky and malleable felt, it contains a part of wool as most of the hats in that period.
The sweatband, light, is very similar to the Sools Steur has in his collection
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The inside is a worn patch that could one of the numerous producers in the capital of French hats
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Under the sweatband there this paper label write by hand. No indications of size, but it is a 55 cm or 6 7/8 US
No stamps on the sweatband
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It was used, but for the its age in a perfect shape, no moths, no flaws

It's a beautiful hat, Daniele. Nice proportions to it. Shame about the size.

 

[Daniele Tanto]

I still feel guilty to buy two hats absolutely not of my size, but they were too beautiful to leave them
Another arrival from France

J&B was the French producer of this hat in black velour. The hatter, was, based on my experience, the best in France in those years

From my experience with J&B hats, I have some others made before the WWII was made in the twenty

The proportions are as follows: raw brim to 6,5 cm. open crown at 13 and the ribbon is 5 cm.

I haven’t the experince of Steve about velour, neither I can’t decipher who made it, but this is fantastic. Soft and pliable, very dense and rich

The inside is without patch or lining, there was somenthing I’m sure, but not today.
Under the sweatband there are two paper labels: the above and the size tag 4 1/2 or 56 cm.
The golden and embossed stamps on the sweatband are there:

The shop where it was sold

It was used, but for the its age in a perfect shape, no moths, no flaws.

I can tell you that Daniele is depressed for the size of this hat and considers those who can wear it very lucky

 

[Steve1857]

Looks great Steve. Is that a taller crown?

Thanks, Scott. It's about 5,5 inches, so on the tall side. I think the brim and overall shape of the hat make it look taller, too.

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[Steve1857]

Lovely, Steve. I have 5 (maybe 6) Bowlers now. No interior anything like that!

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Thanks, H. I have 9 Bowlers, 6 of them have similar linings and interiors to the Hartley and Boedeker.

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[Steve1857]

Visited Amsterdam's biggest carboot-sale this weekend and waded through 750 stalls of mainly second hand and vintage clothing. All of ten decent hats to be found, two if which were worth bringing back with me. This is the first one.
Modern Borsalino in mirtillo colour. Size 56, unlined, with the underwelt brim at 6cm and crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Very lightweight hat at only 82 grams and, for a nice change with Borsalino, this one doesn't run small. And it's blue, so it had to come. There was a period when Borsalino struggled with the quality of their hats. This one has all the quality you'd expect of this brand though.
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These dark blue hats tend to look black in most pictures, so I've put it next to a black Stetson Imperial homburg for comparison.
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Mirtillo is my favourite blue. Nice find Stefan.

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[Steve1857]

This is the second hat I found this weekend at Amsterdam's biggest carboot-sale. The vendor actually had two of these: one in black and this one (the black one had some staining I wasn't sure I could get out, so I left it there).
Kingson in mirtillo, size 58 with the bound brim at 5,5cm and crown at 10cm at the center dent. Made especially for J. Pul of Amsterdam.
Here is the brand represented on one of their business postcards; Kingson hats America.
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There is however nothing American about this hat as it was made in Italy. I suspect probably by Cervo, judging by the size label. It is possible however that Borsalino was the maker. Firma San Giorgi n.v. was the importer for Borsalino in the Netherlands.
Here's the shop of J. Pul on Muntplein 5 in Amsterdam (note the prominent sign of Brummel's hats, a brand I suspect was also made in Italy).

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Anyway. Here's the hat. Lovely simple ribbed ribbon on it.

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Another nice find in my favourite blue, Stefan. Love the postcard and photo of Puls shop. Thanks for sharing.

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[deadlyhandsome]

This is the second hat I found this weekend at Amsterdam's biggest carboot-sale. The vendor actually had two of these: one in black and this one (the black one had some staining I wasn't sure I could get out, so I left it there).
Kingson in mirtillo, size 58 with the bound brim at 5,5cm and crown at 10cm at the center dent. Made especially for J. Pul of Amsterdam.
Here is the brand represented on one of their business postcards; Kingson hats America.
View attachment 185979
There is however nothing American about this hat as it was made in Italy. I suspect probably by Cervo, judging by the size label. It is possible however that Borsalino was the maker. Firma San Giorgi n.v. was the importer for Borsalino in the Netherlands.
Here's the shop of J. Pul on Muntplein 5 in Amsterdam (note the prominent sign of Brummel's hats, a brand I suspect was also made in Italy).

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Anyway. Here's the hat. Lovely simple ribbed ribbon on it.

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Two mirtillo hats in one day! Along with cadet, this is my favorite shade of blue. Congrats on the finds!


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[mayserwegener]

I still feel guilty to buy two hats absolutely not of my size, but they were too beautiful to leave them
Another arrival from France
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J&B was the French producer of this hat in black velour. The hatter, was, based on my experience, the best in France in those years
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From my experience with J&B hats, I have some others made before the WWII was made in the twenty
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The proportions are as follows: raw brim to 6,5 cm. open crown at 13 and the ribbon is 5 cm.
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I haven’t the experince of Steve about velour, neither I can’t decipher who made it, but this is fantastic. Soft and pliable, very dense and rich
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The inside is without patch or lining, there was somenthing I’m sure, but not today.
Under the sweatband there are two paper labels: the above and the size tag 4 1/2 or 56 cm.
The golden and embossed stamps on the sweatband are there:
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The shop where it was sold
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It was used, but for the its age in a perfect shape, no moths, no flaws.
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I can tell you that Daniele is depressed for the size of this hat and considers those who can wear it very lucky

Daniele, Great looking old Velour!

 

[Hat and Rehat]

Thanks, H. I have 9 Bowlers, 6 of them have similar linings and interiors to the Hartley and Boedeker.

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My hat purchases have suffered something akin to price point creep. Originally I was determined to be frugal, so I have Bowlers with missing sweatbands, ribbons falling off, etc. One, which must be in a box in my attic, needs complete retrimming. Even the binding is shiny and frayed. The other is a Penn- Craft, which I understanding was affiliated with Stetson. The ribbon is only held on by stitches at one end, which were behind the bow, which was quite literally held on by a thread, but is now in a miscellaneous parts tub, awaiting the day I refurbish the hat (waiting patiently, I hope). The Penn Craft came with no sweat, so it makes no sense to reattach ribbon prior to new leather. It has a very tightly pleated liner, and a tip cap that is fairly stiff. The sad thing, which I did not notice in photos prior to purchase, is that the liner fabric on one side became so old and dry that it's separating into strips, as if the alternate threads in the weave took a hike. If I put a very wide sweat in, the liner may be salvageable.
I do have a brown Resistol, a Beyers Rolnick, probably mid 60s that is fully intact and wearable. It has a nice inside, which I have no complaint with, pleated liner to a tip with a plastic protector, and leather in good shape except a little scuffed along the bottom from being set places o.n the brim instead of the crown. It's a solid hat, but doesn't elicit "wows".
Finally (it seems) I have a more modern Pilgrim brand, made by Morefelt. It has an unpleated liner, and the felt is quite coarse. It's nothing to write home about.
I don't hate it, but it has little to arouse strong feelings in either direction.
My earlier impression of 5 may have been inflated, and I was surely wrong to suggest 6. I purchased so many hats in such a short time window that I don't know exactly what I own. You can't swing a cat without hitting a hat in my house. I have hats that fit me which have only been on my head once or twice, and never in public. My wife has good cause for some of her ire, and I have earnestly been trying to reform.
I haven't bid on a hat in a week!
"Hello. I'm Steve, and I'm a hataholic."
I could fall off the wagon at any moment.

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