Nice Greg! Was that the one on Etsy? I've seen a few over the years as well. I bet @Hurricane Jack can add some info.
Thanks, Bob it was the Etsy listing. I'm hoping some of you fellas from the area chime in.
Nice Greg! Was that the one on Etsy? I've seen a few over the years as well. I bet @Hurricane Jack can add some info.
BB, Emory Bird Thayer was a big 3-4 story dept store in downtown Kansas City. They were known for selling quality goods. By the late '60's suburban shopping malls had replaced downtown shopping, EBT was closed & the bldg was torn down ~1970 with downtown renewal.Got something a little unusual in today. 3X Stetson with American Royal on the sweat. I could find nothing that indicated Stetson ever made a model of this name for the general public. It probably is a promotional hat special ordered by the Kansas City men's store shown on the sweat to capitalize on the American Royal livestock show held annually in K C or the store ordered hats worn by VIP's or officials of the event. I've run across a couple of these hats and most are adorned with pins and all came from the same store which closed in 1968. This one had two and evidence of several others having been on the hat before. Both of the pins are enamel inlaid Sterling. I'm hoping I'm able to mitigate the pinholes a bit.
Fair condition with a 2" sweat and an embroidered last drop liner, though it is glued in. A six ply ribbon and a three ply under brim treatment. I've seen similar hats in some of the Miller-Stockman catalogs, the Arminty and the Arminto but other than that, nothing. Anyone with info let me know. Any collectors of AR memorabilia can hit me up about the pins. View attachment 131658 View attachment 131659 View attachment 131660 View attachment 131661 View attachment 131662 View attachment 131663 View attachment 131664 View attachment 131665
If you can clean the stains you might be able to close up the holes with plenty of moist steam & ironing, with the hat on your hat block.Thanks, Jim I meant to put that in the narrative. It has nothing behind the sweat or liner which lends to the special order thoughts I had. There are two of these hats listed on the bay now. Both are identical to this hat save for size and the number of pins adorning them. Jim, we'll see about the pin holes. I've had pretty good luck in the past mitigating them but the big ones on this hat are from the existing Sterling pins and the pin posts have tarnished, staining the holes.
Meant to add in the original post, 3.5" brim and a very soft 6' open crown.
Crowns were hung over the streets of downtown at Christmas time for yrs. Emery Bird Thayer is in the background.BB, Emory Bird Thayer was a big 3-4 story dept store in downtown Kansas City. They were known for selling quality goods. By the late '60's suburban shopping malls had replaced downtown shopping, EBT was closed & the bldg was torn down ~1970 with downtown renewal.
The American Royal is a rodeo & livestock show still held each Oct. There have been at least two pair of cowboy boots surface, marked American Royal & sold thru the shop of Charles (C.P.) Shipley, famous saddlemaker. Shipley also sold hats from his shop & catalog. I was hoping you had found one of the marked hats.
The pins represent the American Royal Crown. There are collectors for AR memorabilia but I have no idea how common they might be. Probably no way to know who might have owned the hat.
You may remember the one-off pair of boots that Enid Justin presented to the governor of the AR that surfaced a few yrs ago. As I recall the current owner was the grandnephew of the AR governor.
If that hat fits real big, let me know!
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I am1930s Dobbs burgundy wide-brim thick felt. Probably a 7
If anyone is interested I might go back and purchase.
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LOVE it!NOS Vtg Champ. Seller described it acurately, New Old Stock hat in blue. Other than some peeling of the size tag and a slight thread fray at the back of the sweatband seam, it looks pristine for a 1950's(?) hat. I'm gonna like this one.
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That is about as good as they get. Great find.Scott & Co.![]()
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Thank you!That is about as good as they get. Great find.
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I forgot to ask: has anyone come across "vacuum fitting"? It's a new one on me.Yesterday, I posted my newest find, a J. Moores and Sons bowler, possibly 1930s. I also asked what "vacuum fitting" meant. Today, wearing the hat, I found out what it means.
After having it on for less than a minute, the hat seems to "seal" itself to your head. Not in an uncomfortable way, though. It takes a bit of effort to take it off.
This makes sense when remembering that bowlers were used as a type of work hat (the original hard hat in fact) and used when riding horses. Thus, they needed to stay on under various conditions.
My surmise is this one was ordered by a horse rider. He must have been a good one. There are no dents [emoji4]![]()
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Two very nice hats. The mystery fedora looks like a Dobbs or Knox, but I guess you thought the same. What does it look like inside?1920s or 30s mystery Fedora and an akubra federation IV View attachment 131797 View attachment 131798 View attachment 131799 View attachment 131800
John Lofgren Monkey Boots Shinki Horsebuttt - $1,136 The classic monkey boot silhouette in an incredibly rich Shinki russet horse leather.
Grant Stone Diesel Boot Dark Olive Chromexcel - $395 Goodyear welted, Horween Chromexcel, classic good looks.
Schott 568 Vandals Jacket - $1,250 The classic Perfecto motorcycle jacket, in a very special limited-edition Schott double rider style. Blank. No labels, sweat band or anything. Thin, stiff feltTwo very nice hats. The mystery fedora looks like a Dobbs or Knox, but I guess you thought the same. What does it look like inside?
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That's a shame. However, it's still a very nice looking 40s-50s Dobbs or Knox looking hat. Congrats.Blank. No labels, sweat band or anything. Thin, stiff felt
Blank. No labels, sweat band or anything. Thin, stiff felt