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RJR

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Just received a Steele & Jones INDY.Too warm for today but the fit is good.
 
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Perfection!

Folks might not get the impression from the stingy brims I normally prefer to wear, but a cattleman creased Open Road, in my mind, is about the coolest thing ever.

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I have several Westerns with Cattleman creases & they look just fine but they all have >3" brims. I never cared for how I look in an OR with a Cattleman crease & I always thought it was because the brim was too narrow for me. Wearing this OR around the house this morning I'm coming to the conclusion it's the turned up brim & not the width that I don't like on me. I just don't look as good as you & some others do with a turned up brim. I tend to like all my brims pretty flat & level in front; not turned up or snapped down.

This hat may end up with a diamond but I'm in no hurry.
 
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I have several Westerns with Cattleman creases & they look just fine but they all have >3" brims. I never cared for how I look in an OR with a Cattleman crease & I always thought it was because the brim was too narrow for me. Wearing this OR around the house this morning I'm coming to the conclusion it's the turned up brim & not the width that I don't like on me. I just don't look as good as you & some others do with a turned up brim. I tend to like all my brims pretty flat & level in front; not turned up or snapped down.

This hat may end up with a diamond but I'm in no hurry.
Turn up the brim, turn up the Bob Wills on the stereo, and turn up a few cold ones. You might find it suits you more than you think.
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RomanImperator

One of the Regulars
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New Penney's Marathon I believe the liner puts it around '40 - '45
Shark gill pleated ribbon
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Reverse of the sweatband reveals previous owner's name and info:
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Col. Louis Siv Phillipp (Ret.) Riverside, California



Also, new Wright boater:
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IIRC this logo puts it post 1934 so Im guessing 40's or 50's
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New Penney's Marathon I believe the liner puts it around '40 - '45
Shark gill pleated ribbon
IMG_20170610_154909.jpg

IMG_20170610_154849.jpg

IMG_20170610_154830.jpg

Reverse of the sweatband reveals previous owner's name and info:
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Col. Louis Siv Phillipp (Ret.) Riverside, California



Also, new Wright boater:
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IMG_20170610_154609.jpg

IMG_20170610_154636.jpg

IMG_20170610_154708.jpg

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IIRC this logo puts it post 1934 so Im guessing 40's or 50's
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Two really great hats. Ribbons on both are special. It would be interesting to research the Colonel. Maybe a WWI vet (Retired).
 

40Cal

One Too Many
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Dang...



And dang again!

Awesome hats both!
Thanks, Bob!
Whoa. Good get, 40. That's a keeper.


Sent directly from my mind to yours.
It truly is a fine hat Jim. Thanks

gorgeous !!!

love Adrians stash ... I dip into it pretty frequently
Hard to beat MB,s hats! I agree , Anthony.

Super rich color. Great brim work. Keeper for sure!
The brim is close to a three incher , Red! I'm quite happy in the shade
 

moehawk

I'll Lock Up
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Hey all!
A new hat, and a learning experience too. Saw this Borden on Etsy. The few pics weren't very sharp, couldn't quite tell if it was a Homburg or a fedora in need of a flanging (partly my eyes too). The seller didn't know a lot about hats, so rather than launch into an detailed description with 27 8X10 glossy color photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back explaining what each one was, I just bought it 'cause it was cool, an unusual brand and not too expensive. Turns out it was a Homburg in need of a flanging.
So here's the learning experience part.
Not having a Homburg flange, I decided to correct the wonky brim by converting it to a fedora. Now the brim wasn't too bad, a little bent up and wonky in a couple spots, and maybe a bit lopsided. I shoulda just steamed it out and fixed it, but I had a great picture in my head of the finished product, so I went ahead and started flattening out the curl and reflanging it. Turns out it's not that simple. Got it most of the way there before I realized that the normally inconspicuous exposed stitch line for the brim binding was now very visible. That in and of itself wasn't so bad, but there was a prominent line of darker felt between that stitch line and the edge of the binding where the color had been shaded from the sun.
D'OH!
So, I began the process of recurling it by hand. And lots of steam. The end result is a little lumpy, but a lot better than I thought I could do without the proper flange.

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Oops...forgot to iron rhe wrinkle out of the ribbon. Oh well, kinda goes with the lumpy brim.
The insides:

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The sweat debossment in different light:

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This fell out from behind the slightly dry sweat while applying Lexol.

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Unfortunately it crumbled while trying to get good pics. I saw a small factory tag under the sweat, but it's mostly under the reed tape and I want to let the Lexol work it's magic and get a smaller camera than my tablet before I try for a pic.
The open crown is 5 3/4", the brim 2 1/2" 128g. The felt is soft, nicely finished, not overly stiffened. The fit is wonderful.
So, I am going to make a guess of early 50's on this one. Any thoughts and input always welcome.


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