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After a couple of weeks on the custom band block, I brushed, steamed, and conditioned three new hats.
Here's the first. Knox Forty
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Second, Supreme Quality Wormser
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Third, Lock and Co. Very wide brim. I didn't know Lock&Co made such wide-brimmed hats.
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Very cool additions, Max. I think I like the Wormser best.
 

TheOldFashioned

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Super fast delivery on this Knox Fifteen derby, which is off to the deep freeze. Not sure which is colder, that or outside, as winter has finally made its presence known in these parts.
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Possesses a bit of mystery to it. The factory tag indicates it is from the 40s, but the liner appears to be glued in. Size tag as well as price/sales tag are missing, although obviously this should have been $15.

There also feels like there is some kind of insert between the liner tip and the top of the crown. I discovered this when I found a very small depression on top. When I (gently) pushed it made a popping sound. Plastic or cardboard-like insert perhaps? The felt itself isn't as stiff as my unlined 30s Stetson Select derby, but it's definitely not soft on top ala a homburg. Rather, somewhere in between such that it is slightly malleable but doesn't hold a shape and pops back into place (aside from the depression).

I tried looking for other examples of a Knox Fifteen derby and only found reference to one other. It was posted by @Dinerman over a decade ago, but the pics have been lost to broken Photobucket syndrome.

If anyone can help unravel this puzzle please feel free to chime in. I humbly defer to the collectives expertise.
 

Steinbockhase

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Super fast delivery on this Knox Fifteen derby, which is off to the deep freeze. Not sure which is colder, that or outside, as winter has finally made its presence known in these parts.
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Possesses a bit of mystery to it. The factory tag indicates it is from the 40s, but the liner appears to be glued in. There also feels like there is some kind of insert between the liner tip and the top of the crown. I discovered this when I found a very small depression on top. When I (gently) pushed it made a popping sound. Plastic or cardboard-like insert perhaps? The felt itself isn't as stiff as my unlined 30s Stetson Select derby, but it's definitely not soft on top ala a homburg. Rather, somewhere in between such that it is slightly malleable but doesn't hold a shape and pops back into place (aside from the depression).

I tried looking for another examples of a Knox Fifteen derby and only found reference to one other. It was posted by @Dinerman over a decade ago, but the pics have been lost to broken Photobucket syndrome.

If anyone can help unravel this puzzle please feel free to chime in. I humbly defer to the collectives expertise.


Deep Freeze? Interesting; is that to kill off germs and bacteria?
 

TheOldFashioned

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Deep Freeze? Interesting; is that to kill off germs and bacteria?

Yes, of sorts, although I don't possess any scientific evidence to support the practice. Considering bacteria can lie dormant in permafrost and the polar ice caps it probably has limited effect on those micro-organisms. That being said, I would suspect it is highly effective for killing anything moth related. Many members here swear by it as a "best practice" when taking possession of a new hat, so it has become part of standard procedure for me. Deep freeze for a couple days and then a steam and brush to freshen it up.
 

drmaxtejeda

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Blue Disney. @Just Daniel bought this one in a fleamarket in Mexico City, and then he sold it to me at cost for $60.00

To my surprise, this hat was made by Disney for El Palacio de Hierro, a very old department store chain in Mexico.

The felt is very soft and lightweight, and has a Cav edge.
I already have two Mr. Disneys, but this is my first full Disney.
I wonder which decade it's from. The sweatband is in a very poor state, but I was able to keep it.

@alanfgag, could you please say which time period you think it is from? Anybody?
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Blue Disney. @Just Daniel bought this one in a fleamarket in Mexico City, and then he sold it to me at cost for $60.00

To my surprise, this hat was made by Disney for El Palacio de Hierro, a very old department store chain in Mexico.

The felt is very soft and lightweight, and has a Cav edge.
I already have two Mr. Disneys, but this is my first full Disney.
I wonder which decade it's from. The sweatband is in a very poor state, but I was able to keep it.

@alanfgag, could you please say which time period you think it is from? Anybody?
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I forget what year, but the Mr. Disneys are newer. There's info in the Disney Diner.

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Blue Disney. @Just Daniel bought this one in a fleamarket in Mexico City, and then he sold it to me at cost for $60.00

To my surprise, this hat was made by Disney for El Palacio de Hierro, a very old department store chain in Mexico.

The felt is very soft and lightweight, and has a Cav edge.
I already have two Mr. Disneys, but this is my first full Disney.
I wonder which decade it's from. The sweatband is in a very poor state, but I was able to keep it.

@alanfgag, could you please say which time period you think it is from? Anybody?
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Labels would be helpful. The fabric reed material used between sweat and felt seems to be an attachment method used in the 1940s.

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