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OTHER THAN eBAY Hats: Victories, Defeats, Gripes & Items of Interest

AbbaDatDeHat

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super informative .. i learned a bunch right here, thanks.
gentleman i purchased hat from told me his grand dad purchased hat in the (30s or) 40s.
from what little i know i figured 50s
It would be interesting to know when the first embroidered Last Drops were offered. I certainly do not know.
Anybody??
B
 

Louis Mountbatten

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I have to disagree. That sweatband says typical 1950s to me, not 40s. But, we'd need more shots of size tags, imprints, and logos to be more sure. I would not put it into the 40s. Just because there is no plastic liner does not mean it has to be 40s.
 
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I like it! It's unreeded, with a beautiful shape, and a mystery brand. I was told by an expert (who normally wishes to remain anonymous, ahem!) It looks like a Lee.
Besides, I was depressed, and needed a pick-me-up.
Sound like all perfectly good reasons to me! :D
 

Bill Hughes

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It would be interesting to know when the first embroidered Last Drops were offered. I certainly do not know.
Anybody??
B
Here are some of my notes. I acquired the information from the lounge from members @alanfgag & @carouselvic.

Last Drop of Water Liner:
• A 1981 trademark filing references a first use in trade for THE LAST DROP FOROM HIS STETSON in 1921.
• The national ad campaign goes back to the 20s.
• Registration #1132246 May of 1948 for use in headwear.
 

AbbaDatDeHat

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Here are some of my notes. I acquired the information from the lounge from members @alanfgag & @carouselvic.

Last Drop of Water Liner:
• A 1981 trademark filing references a first use in trade for THE LAST DROP FOROM HIS STETSON in 1921.
• The national ad campaign goes back to the 20s.
• Registration #1132246 May of 1948 for use in headwear.
Thank you Bill for keeping track. I always think i’ll remember but then have to ask.
I would have thought 30’s stretching it but wow, 1921.
B
 

Just Daniel

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I wonder why I remember it as ‘46? I’ll have to use some of this quarantine time to look back!

...I searched high and low but can’t find it. I amended my earlier post.


Here are some of my notes. I acquired the information from the lounge from members @alanfgag & @carouselvic.

Last Drop of Water Liner:
• A 1981 trademark filing references a first use in trade for THE LAST DROP FOROM HIS STETSON in 1921.
• The national ad campaign goes back to the 20s.
• Registration #1132246 May of 1948 for use in headwear.
 
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georgie girl

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Just thought I'd give a heads up to anyone looking for a knox twenty that is very inexpensively priced that I saw today on Etsy. I'm not a size 7, but some of you might be. I didn't inquire as to what the brim width was, but it did look like it had an oilskin liner in it.
 

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Thank you Bill for keeping track. I always think i’ll remember but then have to ask.
I would have thought 30’s stretching it but wow, 1921.
B

I am not aware (or don’t remember) examples of this liner before WWII. From the photos provided, this hat appears to be a lovely c.1950 example. If it is earlier, labels, size tag and sweatband markings will show something different than expected.
 

drmaxtejeda

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Doc, it looks just like the models you really like!
Yes, Danielito! I had to have it, and finally,
Roberto and Jula ceded a little on the price. I feigned disinterest, asking about another hat, and casually asked about this one. Maybe they're also a little affected by the stay at home order.
On the other hand, so am I!
Dang, not only am I not working, but I gave my tenants a 50% discount for April. Dentists are especially at risk, because of the aerosol created by the handpiece.
I knew I should have been a lawyer, damn it.
 

Just Daniel

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Yes, the illustration was used in the 20s for posters and advertisements, but the trademark application for headgear clearly says the earliest use claimed in hats is from 1948.



I am not aware (or don’t remember) examples of this liner before WWII. From the photos provided, this hat appears to be a lovely c.1950 example. If it is earlier, labels, size tag and sweatband markings will show something different than expected.
 

J Williams

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^^^^as said above by those in the know, if no tip protector and seam on the side (imho) i concur. I’m going with the earliest of early.
And a super fine example as well.
Did they have Lot#s during that time frame???
B

I believe I read that the Lot #'s stopped in the 40's - was it the end of the 40's? or the beginning of the 40's? I think @alanfgag was leading the charge on the Lot # thread.
 
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I believe I read that the Lot #'s stopped in the 40's - was it the end of the 40's? or the beginning of the 40's? I think @alanfgag was leading the charge on the Lot # thread.

1941-42. I've not seen a LOTXXXX number imprinted on a sweatband after this time. This practice went the way of the gold size label about the same time.
 

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