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From one ex-uniformed individual to another: I salute you! :cheers1:luvthatlulu said:Let's have a cigar and enjoy the rest of this Sunday!
From one ex-uniformed individual to another: I salute you! :cheers1:luvthatlulu said:Let's have a cigar and enjoy the rest of this Sunday!
Dixon Cannon said:I always felt that if I were given the opportunity to talk casually and one-on-one with the likes of Sean Penn, I might be able to set him straight!
luvthatlulu said:But, isn't it equally strange that, when the actors and artists were all in agreement and gung-ho with the majority of us (for example, post 9/11 and Toby Keith's jingoistic "put a boot in your a**" attitude -- by the way, what branch of the military did he finally join?) we applauded and encouraged their efforts. Now, here we stand ready to pull the plug on their voices if they dare to disagree. Amazing. :eusa_doh:
Viola said:I don't know if its where I live, but the only people I knew who even knew who Toby Keith WAS, were deriding him as an ignorant know-nothing and were quite willing to shut him up.
But...boycotting the Chicks, now THAT was unacceptable and un-American.
luvthatlulu said:I'm sure Sean Penn feels the same way.
See...this quote says it all about us. We all believe going in that we are right and it's the other guy who is all wrong. What makes you think that Sean Penn couldn't set you straight under the same set of circumstances? Too close-minded? If we are all so sure that our position(s) are unassailable, why should we fear any discussion to the contrary in the first place? [huh]
Dixon Cannon said:Check their premise! I learned that from Ayn Rand; if you start from a faulty premise, your entire argument is flawed. That is Sean's problem - a faulty premise. I could help him with that.
-dixon cannon
You and me both, dear lady... I like to know who's potentially likely to do something unbelievably stupid and who isn't.Viola said:I like to know who the idiots are.lol
luvthatlulu said:Good point. I don't know what the exact fault is in Sean Penn's premise because I don't hang on his every word; however, I think you're agreeing that having an open dialogue with those we disagree whole-heartedly with is always a good start to mending it?
"Everyone has the right to be an idiot, and everyone else the right to call them one"
Woodrow Wilson, "the Quick Comradeship of Letters" address at the Institute of France, Paris, May 10, 1919.I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speach was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool, the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking. It cannot be so easily discovered if you allow him to remain silent and look wise, but if you let him speak, the secret is out and the world knows that he is a fool.
Thos. Jefferson, inaugral address, March 4, 1801.Peace, commerce, and honest friendship, with all nations-entangling alliance with none.
Paisley said:The problem with celebrities endorsing causes outside their expertise is that they have the potential to do a lot of damage.