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Did DD see the Buco somewhere in passing and made his from memory?
What a fantastic find and deal! Looks beautiful and almost new....my RMC J24 doesn't look better comparing it with your pictures you posted today.Thank you to everyone who's been happy to share their knowledge on these jackets - I've certainly learnt a lot. To round things up here's a couple of glamour shots I took while the sun was out. Have a good day all and thanks again View attachment 232164 View attachment 232165
Repro or original, for 1500 GBP it's a score either way. Because if it's an early RMC, possibly NZ, then that jacket is worth even more than that. It's a pure 2000+GBP piece in any case and a tremendously cool jacket. I'd be very happy to own this one way or another.
Just as a final word, and regarding questions that I've been asked by fellow member by DM:
The RMC has « DOT » snaps, originals had United Carr.
My J23 has 2 hands warmer pockets on back.
Only the J21 had 1 map pocket.
Buco's advertising
in a 1951 and 1952 catalogues they make the distinction between J22: wool lining and J23: quilted lining, both offered at 24"lengh
I think that no one will ever know precisely the small differences between transitionnal models: 1st tag (white), 2nd tag (brown green writting), 3rd tag (navy blue, gold writting), also multicolor wool lining (some J21/22), Red and Black houndstooth wool lining (J22, J31, J30,...), Checked Plaid lining (j22/23/24/31), and then Rounded passants/epaulets on early models J21/22/30/31..., French seams on early models.
The only option would be time traveling!
Buco catalogue 1951:
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Buco catalogue 1952:
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I have an original J-24 two-hand warmer pocket and a red and black plaid wool liner. I purchased about 13 years ago and it was in a similar condition to the OP's jacket. It came with a golden brown fur collar which I lost during a move. Mine is size 46 and consistent in fit to other original size 46 Buco jackets I own. The early horsehide Buco jackets I own are much heavier than the 60s steer hide J-100 jackets I owned.J24 came out 1953 as standard with 3rd Label an nylon quilted lining.
@ Mysteryo: Thank you for the comprehensive information on Vintage Buco J-21, J-22, J-23, and J-24 jackets. Is there any way to distinguish between a J-24 with a wool plaid lining like the OP's jacket and a Buco J-22?Just as a final word, and regarding questions that I've been asked by fellow member by DM:
The RMC has « DOT » snaps, originals had United Carr.
My J23 has 2 hands warmer pockets on back.
Only the J21 had 1 map pocket.
Buco's advertising
in a 1951 and 1952 catalogues they make the distinction between J22: wool lining and J23: quilted lining, both offered at 24"lengh
I think that no one will ever know precisely the small differences between transitionnal models: 1st tag (white), 2nd tag (brown green writting), 3rd tag (navy blue, gold writting), also multicolor wool lining (some J21/22), Red and Black houndstooth wool lining (J22, J31, J30,...), Checked Plaid lining (j22/23/24/31), and then Rounded passants/epaulets on early models J21/22/30/31..., French seams on early models.
The only option would be time traveling!
Buco catalogue 1951:
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Buco catalogue 1952:
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This is an old thread and been pretty much settled. It is an original. French seam is on early model. Examples can be found. In fact, someone just sold an original J-23 or J-24 with french seams and the 2nd label here a month or so ago.Has anyone thought of Bill Kelso? He will use NOS zippers on request and besides that will reproduce accurate labels for any model.
I would be happy if it were an original but just wouldn’t be surprised if someone pulled a repro manufacturer tag off and sold it as original. But those white tags would yellow after 70 years like Carlos said.
I don’t see the OP’s Buco model on his site but Andy said he has reproduced models that didn’t make it on the website.
He adds details that other repro manufacturers don’t add, like inner tags and look at the stamp on the leather
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