Need help identifying 1940’s maker?

[Bluechel]

Crown pocket zips and 1943 Talon main, but haven’t seen side by side cuff snaps anywhere….

 

[Cavalier]

Crown pocket zips and 1943 Talon main, but haven’t seen side by side cuff snaps anywhere…. View attachment 823865

Hi: Yes, these cuffs are a rare design. I've only seen 2 examples: one online and one I recently purchased. I'd like to see photos of the whole jacket. Mine is a '40s straight zip CHP. This site is terrible; won't let me attach photos. Cheers.

 

[Bluechel]

Hi: Yes, these cuffs are a rare design. I've only seen 2 examples: one online and one I recently purchased. I'd like to see photos of the whole jacket. Mine is a '40s straight zip CHP. This site is terrible; won't let me attach photos. Cheers.

 

[Bluechel]

The crazy thing is how nice the leather is on this...probably as good as any jacket I have any decade. Is this yours? Does it also utilize the really tiny snaps for the collar?

 

[Cavalier]

The crazy thing is how nice the leather is on this...probably as good as any jacket I have any decade. Is this yours? Does it also utilize the really tiny snaps for the collar?

No, mine has normal snaps; are you sure yours weren't added later. And mine doesn't have horizontal stitching at the pockets. It's not a perfect fit but I like the style and age; I think it's a Star Glove, but I can't find enough exemplars to confirm. My first vintage leather was a similar gorgeous Cal CHP with snap cuffs that I acquired 35+ years ago. It had amazing butterscotch patination, as nice as any I'd ever seen; I wore it to death and wish I still had it. Cheers, Bradley

 

[Bluechel]

Ironically this jacket has larger (but early versions) snaps at the cuff but old 40’s looking tiny snaps around the collar for fur…

 

[Cavalier]

Ironically this jacket has larger (but early versions) snaps at the cuff but old 40’s looking tiny snaps around the collar for fur…

Do you happen to know why multiple makers -- most notably Cal-Leather -- adopted the waistband stitching pattern of a thinner horizontal cental band across the waist? Thx, Bradley

 

[Bluechel]

I don’t really know perhaps to add more safety along the lines of a more effective kidney belt? Which jacket has the side by side cuff snaps? Certainly this jacket looks like a Star or earlier in many ways …

 

[Cavalier]

I don’t really know perhaps to add more safety along the lines of a more effective kidney belt? Which jacket has the side by side cuff snaps? Certainly this jacket looks like a Star or earlier in many ways …

The first one; the longer collar points are presumably an indication of earlier make, although the other had snap cuffs as well but I believe they were singles.

I don't think the narrow stitch band would improve safety as long as the same number of rows were used. I have 2 identical mystery CHPs that have all rows equidistant (pic attached).

Were you the buyer or seller of snap cuff jacket you picture above? The only other double snap cuff CHP I've come across -- which also happens to be quite similar in overall appearance -- in the couple hours I've spent searching since mine arrived this week is attached. It sold on eBay months ago and I reached out to the seller for more info but they haven't responded (2nd pic).

 

[Bluechel]

The first one; the longer collar points are presumably an indication of earlier make, although the other had snap cuffs as well but I believe they were singles.

I don't think the narrow stitch band would improve safety as long as the same number of rows were used. I have 2 identical mystery CHPs that have all rows equidistant (pic attached).

Were you the buyer or seller of snap cuff jacket you picture above? The only other double snap cuff CHP I've come across -- which also happens to be quite similar in overall appearance -- in the couple hours I've spent searching since mine arrived this week is attached. It sold on eBay months ago and I reached out to the seller for more info but they haven't responded (2nd pic).

The jacket on the right, it’s a banged up version of this same jacket, wow! Any additional details? You’re right.

 

[Bluechel]

The one on the left is a Cal, maybe even a Star Glove based on the collar?

 

[Cavalier]

The one on the left is a Cal, maybe even a Star Glove based on the collar?

I assume you're referring to my straight zip, snap cuff we've been discussing, but I don't know how you missed my suggestion many comments ago that it might be a Star Glove, although I've found no conclusive proof.

Also, you didn't answer my question about your straight zip snap cuff, an old ad for which I found on Grailed.

 

[Bluechel]

I just found a version of the one on the left in my closet only all three body zippers (pockets and main) are Crown.

 

[Bluechel]

Sorry I did miss your most important earlier comment and I’ll start by saying that the jacket that started this thread is mine.

 

[Bluechel]

Ah, all caught up now, the side comment about your butterscotch one threw me off track, yes the other pictured does not have that cross pocket stitch. Need to go look at a couple of the Star Gloves and compare.