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Is this small-brim Stetson a common model?

Sparks1988

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I haven‘t been able to find this model in Stetson ads or articles. It has a flat, teardrop crown that is 4 inches in front, 3-1/2 inches in the rear, with a 2 inch brim all around. The ribbon is 2 inches wide with the bow in the back. The logo in the plastic-covered lining is late 50s to mid 60s based on other articles on the forum. The sweat band says “Royal Stetson” and has a reed connected in the rear with a small brass fitting, which is showing some green corrosion. I will post other pictures if that will help with identification. This model seems to have characteristics of both a Trilby and a Pork Pie but isn’t exactly either. Any help is appreciated.
 

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Sparks1988

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I haven‘t been able to find this model in Stetson ads or articles. It has a flat, teardrop crown that is 4 inches in front, 3-1/2 inches in the rear, with a 2 inch brim all around. The ribbon is 2 inches wide with the bow in the back. The logo in the plastic-covered lining is late 50s to mid 60s based on other articles on the forum. The sweat band says “Royal Stetson” and has a reed connected in the rear with a small brass fitting, which is showing some green corrosion. I will post other pictures if that will help with identification. This model seems to have characteristics of both a Trilby and a Pork Pie but isn’t exactly either. Any help is appreciated.
To be clear, I have been wearing this hat and like the overall design, very early-mid 60s vibe. This is one of the five felt fedoras, four of them vintage, that I have acquired and enjoyed over the last two years (this Stetson, a Stetson Arno, a Churchill, and an Emerson.) I am just curious about the model designation for the hat I posted. Thanks for any input.
(Doing what I can to bring back stylish hat-wearing!)
 

blewnote

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I think no one's responded because no one really has an answer for you. I'd say it's mid/late 50s, although it's harder to tell without seeing the liner tip and sweatband, I feel confident based on the size tag and the fact that back bow fedoras seemed to be evident in the 20s and then again in the 50s. They were never as popular as side bow.

The 2 inch brim seems more common to the 60s than 50s in my mind, but who knows if it came like that. Could be the owner had it trimmed at a later date and sewn into the underwelt I assume we're seeing (hard for me to be 100% sure from the picture). Could be the owner had it trimmed when it was first purchased. Hat stores were in the habit of trying to match customers with a shape and size that suited them and perhaps this customer was of slight build. Could be it came from the factory that way.

The telescope crease teardrop crown is nice and looks well done. With some practice and steam and perhaps some tools this would have been easily doable by any hat shop (or even a customer) back in the day. It's my understanding that except for maybe rare examples, most Stetson hats came to stores open crown and the store (or customer) creased it to their liking upon purchase.

As for a model name, I haven't read anything that gives me the idea that anyone has any notion how consistent Stetson was about naming its hat models. Sure, we have the Stratoliners and Open Roads and Whippets and St. Regis' that we all know, and they're plentiful and marked obviously as such. But there are plenty of Stetson homburgs that might have had a model name (the Ambassador comes to mind) that I'm not sure I've seen a picture of with it imprinted in the sweatband. Same goes for fedoras. You're right to look for vintage ads, but that's also very needle in the haystack because you have to luck out that there's a specific model name for the style hat you have on your hands, that Stetson put out ad copy for it, and that you're able to find a copy of that ad today. All that is to say that it may simply be a Stetson, no model.
 

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