Is it a little noisy in here??

[BonnieJean]

It is endemic now that people will do what they want, regardless of how it affects other people.

Gee, and I thought this was only an American thing.


GOK, and I agree with you about the flexibility within structure.

Daisy, the children I was referring to are the ones that are obviously tired and cranky, not the ones that are having fun. When my boys were small I did take them everywhere with me, but they were expected to behave properly in public. Oh, we had our moments, no child is perfect. I homeschooled them and one of our "courses" was a boy's book of manners. They still will groan when I mention it, but they do remember a lot from it and the normal teaching of politeness, like saying "please" and "thank you" and holding doors for people. Or do parents do that anymore? I think I'm getting off thread here.

Anyway, noise is noise, whether coming from people or things. I wonder if our parents/grandparents experienced this same thing?

 

[Fletch]

fftopic: Whilst I would never presume to tell parents how to raise their children, sometimes being on the outside does afford a clearer view than perhaps being on the in the thick of it does. I agree that children need discipline and routine; these form their boundaries which make them feel safe. However, to make these boundaries an absolute is asking for trouble in my view. As with everything in life, a degree of flexibility is often necessary for balance.

< satire type="bitter" >
Ah, you limeys and your thousand-plus-year-old civilization...always taking the long view and not going overboard.

Americans don't talk about discipline as making a child feel safe. No - it's everybody else who's entitled to feel safe. We see it this way: You, the individual, have to learn early on that society is not your buddy.

The world is not a green leafy place to find your bliss; it's a frontier. All you can expect out of it is some small percentage of what you put into it. And the only thing separating humanity from the jungle is the monkey on each of our backs, the internal drill instructor we learn not to question from early on.
< /satire >

As for all these so-called childcare experts - they have an awful lot to answer for. What happened to common sense?

At least over on our side of the big wet, "common sense child raising" has been redefined for the convenience of those who use their hands and don't trouble their hearts or heads.

 

[Barbigirl]

Ridiculous!

:eusa_doh: fftopic:

says that she's doing this "new type of parenting". She will not allow Isaac to sleep anywhere but his crib! Apparently some doctor wrote yet another book about child rearing and said that when kids fall asleep outside of their crib, like their stroller, they don't actually get the real sleep that they need, they don't actually go into deep sleep mode.

OMGoodness that is the biggest bunch of medical psych mumbo jumbo cr** I have ever heard!!!

 

[GOK]

< satire type="bitter" >
Ah, you limeys and your thousand-plus-year-old civilization...always taking the long view and not going overboard.

Americans don't talk about discipline as making a child feel safe. No - it's everybody else who's entitled to feel safe. We see it this way: You, the individual, have to learn early on that society is not your buddy.

The world is not a green leafy place to find your bliss; it's a frontier. All you can expect out of it is some small percentage of what you put into it. And the only thing separating humanity from the jungle is the monkey on each of our backs, the internal drill instructor we learn not to question from early on.
< /satire >

At least over on our side of the big wet, "common sense child raising" has been redefined for the convenience of those who use their hands and don't trouble their hearts or heads.

And there was me thinking you yanks had no sense of humour!!! lol

 

[Fletch]

OH, SO YOU THINK I'M FUNNY, DO YA??!!



Hmm. This guy is one of the few moral role models we have left. Yelling is strength. Maybe that has something to do with our loud culture. Probably not, but it ain't helping.

 

[GOK]

lol :eusa_clap lol :eusa_clap lol :eusa_clap

 

[Quigley Brown]

Thats why I tend to wear my iPod everywhere I go. At least then I can control the noise going into my head instead of hearing bits of droning about,

"I cant believe she said that..." "Yeah it hurts my foot..." "She said she didnt likehim..." "Im standing in line, what are you doing?"

*yuck*

LD

I went the local Safeway on Saturday and won an iPod! That made my weekend. I can't get it to work, though.

 

[Lady Day]

I went the local Safeway on Saturday and won an iPod! That made my weekend. I can't get it to work, though.

Congrads! Im sure youll get it to work. Check the Apple site for troubleshooting.

Good luck,
LD

 

[Girl Friday]

My theory...

Loud people didn't get enough attention from their parents as children.

HEY LOOK AT ME!!!

ick.

And kind of sad at the same time.

 

[Twitch]

It's not so much any one thing but collectively all this yakking on cells, more traffic, loud commercials and even noisly, bustling office environments make for a dirge that assaults folks' ears.

 

[Tony in Tarzana]

Anybody have good stock tips for companies that make hearing aids? I predict a boom in that market, no pun intended. lol

 

[anon`]

Anybody have good stock tips for companies that make hearing aids? I predict a boom in that market, no pun intended. lol

When I was still in school, my mom kept telling me that I ought to pursue a career in audiology--or at least invest in Beltone--for obvious reasons

 

[Fletch]

Last I heard, Canada is in sore need of audiologists. The biggest training center in the country is at UBC in Vancouver. You could spend time in that wonderfully congenial setting and then go off to work anywhere in Canada you chose.

 

[fortworthgal]

I am with all of you. I can't even stand to step inside an Abercrombie & Fitch because of the terribly loud music! Well, that and the fact that I think their clothes are flimsy and ridiculously overpriced... but back to the noise issue - it is awful. Everywhere I go, people are yapping on cell phones or their phones are blasting obnoxious ringtones or something. I'm reminded of one particular instance in the Target checkout line of hearing the young man in front of me describe - in vivid, technicolor detail - his previous evening's exploits with his brand new boyfriend. Very loudly, of course. Ugh. I have overheard several conversations that I could have very happily have gone my entire life without!

I sometimes think that people have this "cone of silence" mentality, like, "I am talking to YOU, so therefore nobody else can hear me." I mean honestly, why else would you ramble on about your sexual exploits, or your bunions or warts, or your parole officer, or anything else remotely personal LOUDLY AND IN PUBLIC? :rage:

 

[Twitch]

Hahaha! Yeah fortworthgal, those damned rigtones are obnoxious! They are way too loud and silly. Ever been startled all to hell as one of these music bombs went off on the person near you? Wet your pants time for sure. I think it is just nuts that a verbal communication device, aka the telephone, should play loud, hokey music instead of just ring. Simply because we can do something doesn't mean we should.

 

[Michaelson]

Noise. I deal with noise all day long, day in and day out, producing classes at the same time in two different rooms here at the Space Institute, so I'm pretty much numb to the whole 'volume' problem now, unless it's so loud it vibrates my body.

As to the noisy advertisements on TV, that's what I use my mute button for on my remote. Problem solved.[huh]

Regards! Michaelson