LeBois46
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Let me see, Christian men, hats off. Jewish men, hats on. When in a religious environment.
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Hats in restaurants
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Let me see, Christian men, hats off. Jewish men, hats on. When in a religious environment.
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A Lebowski reference? Here??? That's wonderful! :eusa_clap
Also, historically speaking, women's hats often required any number of pins in order to secure them on the ladies' heads, and it was quite an ordeal for a lady to remove her hat under such circumstances. As such, ladies were allowed the "grace" of not needing to remove their hats. Updates to hat etiquette over time have, however, required ladies to follow the same etiquette as men if they are wearing a hat as casual and easy to remove as, say, a baseball cap that does not require the use of hat pins.
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No.
As to restaurants....if there are shorts, flip flops, or NASCAR and/or Crimson Tide shirts on the premises - hat stays on....
people dressed respectably (and by that I do NOT mean golf shirts and khakis) hat comes off.
tropicalbob
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My practice exactly.
Cattus Petasatus
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Bob Roberts
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No. Only on the Warden.
Bob Roberts
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Genuine Classic Gangster
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In my view, nothing whatsoever is wrong with the behavior of the man pictured in the OP.
That looks like an expensive hat.
If he takes it off and something happens to it, who is going to reimburse him for the cost of replacing it?
No one is.
He is going to have to suffer greatly from that significant loss. He will thus have wasted several hundreds - or several thousands - of dollars. Moreover, he may be losing a vintage and/or sentimental item that cannot truly be replaced.
And for what purpose will he endure that kind of loss? Merely to appease some bystanders who misinterpret his hat wearing to be disrespectful, even though most likely he did not intend any disrespect, and so none actually exists.
Respect is a two-way street, but nowadays, restaurants are not willing to give hat wearers their due respect. If hat wearers are expected to take off their hats in restaurants in order to "be respectful," that would be fair if and only if restaurants start to become equally respectful to each hat wearer, by guaranteeing that while he is in the restaurant, should his hat be lost or damaged in any way after he has removed it from his his head, the restaurant will pay 100% of the cost to replace it with a comparable item.
Short of restaurants universally adopting that policy, the unreasonable expectation that a hat wearer should remove his hat in a restaurant is a far more egregious of an act of disrespect towards him than is the supposed disrespect he shows towards a restaurant by wearing his hat in it.
That looks like an expensive hat.
If he takes it off and something happens to it, who is going to reimburse him for the cost of replacing it?
No one is.
He is going to have to suffer greatly from that significant loss. He will thus have wasted several hundreds - or several thousands - of dollars. Moreover, he may be losing a vintage and/or sentimental item that cannot truly be replaced.
And for what purpose will he endure that kind of loss? Merely to appease some bystanders who misinterpret his hat wearing to be disrespectful, even though most likely he did not intend any disrespect, and so none actually exists.
Respect is a two-way street, but nowadays, restaurants are not willing to give hat wearers their due respect. If hat wearers are expected to take off their hats in restaurants in order to "be respectful," that would be fair if and only if restaurants start to become equally respectful to each hat wearer, by guaranteeing that while he is in the restaurant, should his hat be lost or damaged in any way after he has removed it from his his head, the restaurant will pay 100% of the cost to replace it with a comparable item.
Short of restaurants universally adopting that policy, the unreasonable expectation that a hat wearer should remove his hat in a restaurant is a far more egregious of an act of disrespect towards him than is the supposed disrespect he shows towards a restaurant by wearing his hat in it.
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Had a business lunch at Olive Garden today. In the lobby were two wooden coat/hat racks - just cheapos with wooden dowels on them, but they were there. Since they were in the entranceway I put my hat on the seat next to me rather than use them, but at least they were there.
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So, Saturday evening we attended a wonderful wedding deception, err... reception for the son of one of my college roommates. By all outward signs, a GREAT time was had by ALL.
I thought about ALL of YOU, though, when checking my hat, but had to request a separate hat check stub. The hat was simply placed on the shelf above my wife's cloak without any ID. The young guy (his second day on the job, and he was already promoted to the role, he told me) was happy to oblige my request, as he was still learning the job.
I tipped him well...
Oddly enough, there was a gentleman, no, a guy, not a gentleman, approximately 65 - 70 years of age, who wore his crusty little Walmart sew up into and mostly throughout the reception until he was simply too hot. I wouldn't even speak to such a barbarian...
I thought about ALL of YOU, though, when checking my hat, but had to request a separate hat check stub. The hat was simply placed on the shelf above my wife's cloak without any ID. The young guy (his second day on the job, and he was already promoted to the role, he told me) was happy to oblige my request, as he was still learning the job.
I tipped him well...
Oddly enough, there was a gentleman, no, a guy, not a gentleman, approximately 65 - 70 years of age, who wore his crusty little Walmart sew up into and mostly throughout the reception until he was simply too hot. I wouldn't even speak to such a barbarian...
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Good for you! Now that young man can retire well on your tip!
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If he can get $5 or $10 for that bill, he's WAY ahead!
I leave the house, I'm wearing a hat. I won't leave it in the car to invite someone to break my window and steal my hat. I've yet to see a hat check at any restaurants in my town. I usually take the hat off while eating, but not always. McDonald's no, The Blue Goat, yes.
sebastian czentner
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Regarding etiquette at restaurant, churches and private is hat-off. Last saturday i went to The night of museums in Buenos aires. The two museums near are the memory and malvinas ( the memory is almost an outdoor museum, because most barracks of ex- esma were closed, and with posters explaining which illegal detention group was operating there) .Malvinas is an indoor museum but i left my hat-on only my take my hat off before the photo of Santiago Maldonado. and some NN´S. By the way ive learned that uSA Bombed the Argentine Colony of Malvinas in 1831-1832, debiltating the defenses of the colony and favorising the occupation of the now Falkland by the british. So there were a conflict between USA and Argentina that i didn't know.
Ps: Nn´s are the people kidnaped by the miltars between 1976-1983. And i almost was a nn in 1982 during 2 weeks my family were spied by intelligence agents or no so intelligent because a 9 year old could know that was spied.
Ps: Nn´s are the people kidnaped by the miltars between 1976-1983. And i almost was a nn in 1982 during 2 weeks my family were spied by intelligence agents or no so intelligent because a 9 year old could know that was spied.
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My mom's best friend was from Buenos Aires!
My brother was a missionary in Buenos Aires!
And please tell me where I can apply for work at the wedding venue. I want $1 Million tips! I'll give you a separate check stub for the felt, the ribbon, the liner and the sweat!
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My wife and I had a conversation the other day after the wrong umbrella was returned to her by the coat check girl. The coat check girls response to my wife's complaint was.."its an umbrella, whats the big deal?" We then wondered what it was like in the days of the ubiquity of men's hats? How often was the wrong hat returned? Did they ever receive a response such as...."Its a hat, whats the big deal?"
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Indeed NOT! Every hat automatically got its own check ticket back in "the day," but I needed to REQUEST one and instruct the hat check boy where to place the ticket [in the ribbon] on Saturday. I wonder when the next time will be that he'll have the opportunity to use what he learned...
