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German & Austrian Hutmachers

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Mayser "Superbe", 59 cm, possible date stamp of June 3, 1950. Great felt, dressing and form.

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Open Crown

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Natural Light

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Yup, all of those things. Superb is a good name for it.
 

Daniele Tanto

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Emerging from my summer slumber, the temperatures are these days of 36-37 Celsius, with a new purchase
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Huckel Chevreau size 59, well preserved, except the ribbon which has small spots
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The hat is in perfect German tradition, very well done and with quality finishes.
It is a classic of the 60s German hats production
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My dating is very empirical, but certainly my friend Steve (owner of a Huckel mine of the same type:)) will know how to give him an age and something else to complete the information framework
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It was sold in Mulheim in the Ruhr, under the Huckel brand on the sweatband there is indicated that it is waterproof.
The dimensions are: open crown at 13 centimeters, ribbon at 4.5 and brim. edged and finished with a seam, they are 6.5 cm. The felt is of medium consistency and suede finished
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Meanwhile, settle for this, as soon as it is a little cooler you will have the contents of the two boxes coming from the Netherlands, now it's too hot. Be patient;)
 

Chepstow

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Germany/ Remscheid
Emerging from my summer slumber, the temperatures are these days of 36-37 Celsius, with a new purchase
2dmcdiv.jpg

Huckel Chevreau size 59, well preserved, except the ribbon which has small spots
v5xuea.jpg

The hat is in perfect German tradition, very well done and with quality finishes.
It is a classic of the 60s German hats production
hvza14.jpg

My dating is very empirical, but certainly my friend Steve (owner of a Huckel mine of the same type:)) will know how to give him an age and something else to complete the information framework
34obq88.jpg

It was sold in Mulheim in the Ruhr, under the Huckel brand on the sweatband there is indicated that it is waterproof.
The dimensions are: open crown at 13 centimeters, ribbon at 4.5 and brim. edged and finished with a seam, they are 6.5 cm. The felt is of medium consistency and suede finished
2iu8021.jpg

Meanwhile, settle for this, as soon as it is a little cooler you will have the contents of the two boxes coming from the Netherlands, now it's too hot. Be patient;)

A classic Daniele and beautiful too!
Congrats to this wonderful find.


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17,477
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Maryland
Emerging from my summer slumber, the temperatures are these days of 36-37 Celsius, with a new purchase
2dmcdiv.jpg

Huckel Chevreau size 59, well preserved, except the ribbon which has small spots
v5xuea.jpg

The hat is in perfect German tradition, very well done and with quality finishes.
It is a classic of the 60s German hats production
hvza14.jpg

My dating is very empirical, but certainly my friend Steve (owner of a Huckel mine of the same type:)) will know how to give him an age and something else to complete the information framework
34obq88.jpg

It was sold in Mulheim in the Ruhr, under the Huckel brand on the sweatband there is indicated that it is waterproof.
The dimensions are: open crown at 13 centimeters, ribbon at 4.5 and brim. edged and finished with a seam, they are 6.5 cm. The felt is of medium consistency and suede finished
2iu8021.jpg

Meanwhile, settle for this, as soon as it is a little cooler you will have the contents of the two boxes coming from the Netherlands, now it's too hot. Be patient;)
Daniele, Fantastic! It could be early 1960s or later 1950s. My guess would be late 1950s. I am not sure how water proof but they did make that statement. :)
 
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Garrett

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Garrett, Super! If it's a Tonak it's very early or from old stock because it has a JHS label.

Steve I was hoping you would chime in with a guess on the dating. I was guessing 50s because the “GA” of Dunn and company is missing which I thought happened sometime in the late 30s early 40s. Do you think this JHS could be from just prior to the war?
 

Steve1857

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Garrett and Steve, just my surmise, but I think this is a pre-war JHS made velour ca. 1930s. It could well have been sold at the Dunn & Co shop in London around about the late 30s and early 40s, and due to the war still have been there after 1945.

I can't see it as being made post war by Tonak for a 1950s English hat market.




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Garrett and Steve, just my surmise, but I think this is a pre-war JHS made velour ca. 1930s. It could well have been sold at the Dunn & Co shop in London around about the late 30s and early 40s, and due to the war still have been there after 1945.

I can't see it as being made post war by Tonak for a 1950s English hat market.




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Steve, Tonak made hats for Dunn & Co. after WWII. Here are some examples.

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/198-g-a-dunn-co-austrian-velour-made-by-tonak/

https://germanaustrianhats.invision...ur-made-by-tonak/?do=findComment&comment=1423
 
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Steve I was hoping you would chime in with a guess on the dating. I was guessing 50s because the “GA” of Dunn and company is missing which I thought happened sometime in the late 30s early 40s. Do you think this JHS could be from just prior to the war?
Garrett, The paper label points to JHS but the sweatband looks more like Tonak. I guess it's possible it was made from old JHS stock. The JHS to Tonak transition period after WWII is not clear.

I have some JHS historical information leading up to WWII and post WWII. Same with the Tonak transition but I have no idea how accurate it is. It's also not very detailed.
 
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"Bellona", 58 cm, Back Bow, Crown Open 6 inches, Brim 2 3/4 inches, possibly 1920s. The black Wool felt easily dry creases and has a nice glow. I have few of these old Wool hats with similar paper labels but I believe this is the oldest. The Crown Patch is missing. I wasn't able to take very good photos so I will take some wearing it outdoors.

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This could be a Sheep surrounded by an "F" and a "S" so possibly Friedrich W. Schneider Köln.

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Open Crown

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Natural Light

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Messages
18,401
Location
Nederland
"Bellona", 58 cm, Back Bow, Crown Open 6 inches, Brim 2 3/4 inches, possibly 1920s. The black Wool felt easily dry creases and has a nice glow. I have few of these old Wool hats with similar paper labels but I believe this is the oldest. The Crown Patch is missing. I wasn't able to take very good photos so I will take some wearing it outdoors.

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This could be a Sheep surrounded by an "F" and a "S" so possibly Friedrich W. Schneider Köln.

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Open Crown

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Great find, Steve. Maybe the same maker as your "Gloria" and my "Germania" hat, as the label border is exactly the same. I have in my notes that those were made by EMS. Sounds like information that I got from your site.
 
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Great find, Steve. Maybe the same maker as your "Gloria" and my "Germania" hat, as the label border is exactly the same. I have in my notes that those were made by EMS. Sounds like information that I got from your site.
Stefan, Thanks! Yes it's the same maker. I have a few other hats with the same type of label. I was thinking "EMS" might be the company initials. What do you make of the possible letters on the sweatband logo? I guess it could be "E" and "S"?

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Stefan, Thanks! Yes it's the same maker. I have a few other hats with the same type of label. I was thinking "EMS" might be the company initials. What do you make of the possible letters on the sweatband logo? I guess it could be "E" and "S"?

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The E and S are the most likely letters. Can't say what the critter in between is supposed to be though. Cool find and another survivor!
 

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