German & Austrian Hutmachers

[mayserwegener]

Excellent find, Steve. Extremely historically interesting. Thanks for your time on the translation, too.

Steve, Thank you! It was time consuming to translate but proved informative. I also posted it on my website.

Josef Pichler & Söhne, K. u. K. Hof-Hutfabrik Graz, Illustrated Price List, Spring and Summer 1908

 

[mayserwegener]

J. Hückel´s Söhne "Jota Velour", FP 5, possibly late 1920s early 1930s. Really fantastic Black Velour that easily dry creases. There is no Hückel on the Liner and Sweatband. The JHS Crest is the similar to the "Loden" Soft Felts that also do not have Hückel on the Sweatband and Crown Tip Patch. The Paper Label is a JHS Soft Felts Post WWI Type 8 and has no mention of JHS. This hat came from a Czech source.

Open Crown

I found Vilém Rieger Praha - Břevnov in "Chytilův úplný adresár̆ Království českého / Chytilův Complete Directory of the Kingdom of Bohemia, Volume 1. 1913"

Hatters: Klima Ant. No. 267 - Rieger Vilém No. 265.

 

[mayserwegener]

Dobesch Wien "Exquisit", 58 cm, possibly late 1950s. The Black Felt has a great Chamois finish and easily dry creases. The overall condition is excellent. It's rare to come across a Snap Brim Dobesch Wien (most are Homburgs). I would like to give a big thank you to Brent for the great tip!

Open Crown

 

[Daniele Tanto]

Dobesch Wien "Exquisit", 58 cm, possibly late 1950s. The Black Felt has a great Chamois finish and easily dry creases. The overall condition is excellent. It's rare to come across a Snap Brim Dobesch Wien (most are Homburgs). I would like to give a big thank you to Brent for the great tip!

Super elegante!

 

[mayserwegener]

Super elegante!

Daniele, Thank you!

 

[mayserwegener]

Tonak a. s. "J. Hückel´s Söhne" Trademarks (Earliest to Latest)

The earliest registered JHS trademarks are from May 25, 1921. This information should be helpful in dating. The links below the images provide detailed information.

HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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HÜCKEL STANDARD - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HÜCKEL STANDARD: Evidujeme 2 ochranné známky s posledním datem registrace 4. 10. 1947.

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HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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HUCKEL DURIT - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL DURIT: Evidujeme 1 ochrannou známku s posledním datem registrace 15. 11. 1922.

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HUCKELDURIT/DURIT - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKELDURIT/DURIT: Evidujeme 1 ochrannou známku s posledním datem registrace 15. 11. 1922.

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HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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1799 Hückel Superior - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název 1799 Hückel Superior: Evidujeme 1 ochrannou známku s posledním datem registrace 14. 9. 1934.

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HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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HSJ 1799 - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HSJ 1799: Evidujeme 1 ochrannou známku s posledním datem registrace 28. 3. 1931.

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1799 HUCKEL, 1799 Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název 1799 HUCKEL, 1799 Hückel: Evidujeme 2 ochranné známky s posledním datem registrace 29. 3. 1938.

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HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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1799 HUCKEL, 1799 Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název 1799 HUCKEL, 1799 Hückel: Evidujeme 2 ochranné známky s posledním datem registrace 29. 3. 1938.

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HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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HÜCKEL STANDARD - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HÜCKEL STANDARD: Evidujeme 2 ochranné známky s posledním datem registrace 4. 10. 1947.

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JHS - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název JHS: Evidujeme 5 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 21. 2. 2002.

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HUCKEL, Hückel - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL, Hückel: Evidujeme 10 ochranných známek s posledním datem registrace 19. 2. 1940.

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HUCKEL SUPER GUAMA - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HUCKEL SUPER GUAMA: Evidujeme 1 ochrannou známku s posledním datem registrace 7. 6. 1968.

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HÜCKEL DURIT 1799 - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HÜCKEL DURIT 1799: Evidujeme 2 ochranné známky s posledním datem registrace 20. 2. 1996.

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HÜCKEL DURIT 1799 - ochranné známky | Kurzy.cz

Ochranné známky obsahující název HÜCKEL DURIT 1799: Evidujeme 2 ochranné známky s posledním datem registrace 20. 2. 1996.

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[mayserwegener]

K. U. K Hof - Hutfabrikanten, J. Hückel´s Söhne Neutitschein - Wien, Post Card, October 21, 1916 (Sent from Neutitschein)

Mr. C.A.G. Bräutigam, Eschwege, Hessen - Nassau (today Hesse)
Who sent us with your w. letter of 14
ds. Mts. kindly made 2 changes
as of 20 & 31 /1 we have your w.account
etc. gratefully acknowledged, Yours sincerely
10/2/1916.
K. U. K. HOF HUT MANUFACTURERS
J. HÜCKEL'S SONS

I found C.A.G. Bräutigam listed under Huthandlungen / Hat Shops in "Klockhaus' kaufmännisches Handels- und Gewerbe-Adressbuch des Deutschen Reichs Volume 3 1892".

 

[steur]

K. U. K Hof - Hutfabrikanten, J. Hückel´s Söhne Neutitschein - Wien, Post Card, October 21, 1916 (Sent from Neutitschein)

Mr. C.A.G. Bräutigam, Eschwege, Hessen - Nassau (today Hesse)
Who sent us with your w. letter of 14
ds. Mts. kindly made 2 changes
as of 20 & 31 /1 we have your w.account
etc. gratefully acknowledged, Yours sincerely
10/2/1916.
K. U. K. HOF HUT MANUFACTURERS
J. HÜCKEL'S SONS

I found C.A.G. Bräutigam listed under Huthandlungen / Hat Shops in "Klockhaus' kaufmännisches Handels- und Gewerbe-Adressbuch des Deutschen Reichs Volume 3 1892".

That's a great find, Steve. The way it is written makes translation a bit difficult, but from what I gather mr. Bräutigam settled his account with two payments (Wechsel is a short for Geldwechsel or bill exchange) on the 20th and 31st which he wrote about in his letter of the 14th this month. u.ü.V is short for "unter üblichem Vorbehalt" meaning "with the usual reservation".

 

[mayserwegener]

That's a great find, Steve. The way it is written makes translation a bit difficult, but from what I gather mr. Bräutigam settled his account with two payments (Wechsel is a short for Geldwechsel or bill exchange) on the 20th and 31st which he wrote about in his letter of the 14th this month. u.ü.V is short for "unter üblichem Vorbehalt" meaning "with the usual reservation".

Stefan, Thank you!

 

[mayserwegener]

J. Hückel´s Söhne, Pocket Mirror, possibly 1930s. I have only come across this image one other time and it's one of my favorites.

 

[steur]

Echter Mayser Souple in black. Size 59, with the brim at 7cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Never seen the "souple" designation before. Nice that this one is dated: 1958.

 

[mayserwegener]

Echter Mayser Souple in black. Size 59, with the brim at 7cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Never seen the "souple" designation before. Nice that this one is dated: 1958.

Stefan, Great find! Really nice form and really like the bow work. Also always good to have a date stamp.

 

[mayserwegener]

Lembert "Extra Qualitat ", "Velour", 58cm possibly mid 1950s. Very high quality post WWII dark green Velour that is very pliable and easily dry creases. K. & R. Lembert had their own Velour Felt production in this time period. I would like to thank Brent for the tip.

Open Crown

 

[mayserwegener]

Brüder Böhm Wien "Ultra", 57cm / FP 5, possibly 1930s late 1920s. This Stiff Felt is Wool and made by the B.B. Vienna factory.

J. C. Souczek Innsbruck (1950)

J. C. Souczek – Innsbruck erinnert sich

 

[steur]

Stefan, Great find! Really nice form and really like the bow work. Also always good to have a date stamp.

Thank you, Steve.

Lembert "Extra Qualitat ", "Velour", 58cm possibly mid 1950s. Very high quality post WWII dark green Velour that is very pliable and easily dry creases. K. & R. Lembert had their own Velour Felt production in this time period. I would like to thank Brent for the tip.

Open Crown

Well, it is green and I don't care much myself for this corded ribbonstyle but this looks like a very fine velour felt. Nice generous proportions to the hat as well.

Brüder Böhm Wien "Ultra", 57cm / FP 5, possibly 1930s late 1920s. This Stiff Felt is Wool and made by the B.B. Vienna factory.

J. C. Souczek Innsbruck (1950)

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Beautiful old bowler in great shape. Great find, Steve. The picture of the retailer is a really cool addition.

 

[M Hatman]

Well, it is green and I don't care much myself for this corded ribbonstyle but this looks like a very fine velour felt. Nice generous proportions to the hat as well.

But...But...it is almost OCTOBER................AND the corded ribbon becomes quite useful for tying empty beer steins to your belt so they don't get lost...........(of course getting the cords back on the hat can be a bother).

I for one....WILL be wearing one of those tomorrow night!!!!!!! Green and all!!!!!!

 

[Daniele Tanto]

Occasionally a risky purchase with little hope turns out to be a hidden gem

This is the case with this hat bought without knowing much about the size and conditions. The impulse prevailed.
The package arrived in a bar, I picked it up and stopped to open it in a small public park and this hat came out with an almost absurd shape as it was sold as female hat

Going home I fixed it as best I could and something new came out of it.

Huckel ETA - Seal Velor made in Czechoslovakia. Size 6 or 59 cm. 7 3/8 US

The velour is dark brown and very soft to the touch. Sold in Le Havre - France.

The measurements are as follows: the raw brims are five centimeters, the open crown is 14 cm. and the ribbon is 4cm high.

The hat is in excellent condition and hardly worn and, above all, it is my size!

To get news on its history, I am waiting for Steve's visit, who will be in Verona shortly and so with him, the greatest expert in Central European hats, I will have all the details

 

[deadlyhandsome]

This arrived today: The open crown is just over six inches and the raw edge brim is 2 5/8 inches. The felt is in fantastic shape and the leather sweatband looks good too, but the stitching is failing. I’ll let Steve @mayserwegener tell me what I’ve got.

I don’t know who would be up to the detailed hand sewing to fix the sweatband. I had Randall @Randall Renshaw do one for me a while back and I think that’s what made him avoid The Lounge.

 

[Randall Renshaw]

This arrived today: The open crown is just over six inches and the raw edge brim is 2 5/8 inches. The felt is in fantastic shape and the leather sweatband looks good too, but the stitching is failing. I’ll let Steve @mayserwegener tell me what I’ve got.


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I don’t know who would be up to the detailed hand sewing to fix the sweatband. I had Randall @Randall Renshaw do one for me a while back and I think that’s what made him avoid The Lounge.

With the timing I can see why you might think that, Brent, but it wasn’t you or the Dobbs sweat repair that has kept me away. Congrats on selling it, by the way, and I hope you made enough on the listing to recoup your investments on it. seemed to sell well to me.
There’s several reasons one may not wish to stick around on this forum for an extended period. Takes up a lot of time, for one.
Two, there are some in this place who run off good folks because they can’t seem to avoid being of a low type that they likely think they’re not…but most certainly are.
Was here long enough to see a lotta good guys go and too many bad guys stay.

Nuff said.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

With the timing I can see why you might think that, Brent, but it wasn’t you or the Dobbs sweat repair that has kept me away. Congrats on selling it, by the way, and I hope you made enough on the listing to recoup your investments on it. seemed to sell well to me.
There’s several reasons one may not wish to stick around on this forum for an extended period. Takes up a lot of time, for one.
Two, there are some in this place who run off good folks because they can’t seem to avoid being of a low type that they likely think they’re not…but most certainly are.
Was here long enough to see a lotta good guys go and too many bad guys stay.

Nuff said.

I know many of us miss you around here. You were a valued contributor. I know what you mean by caustic individuals and I’ve blocked/ignored several. I’m bummed that some have it behaved boorishly and made this an uninviting place for you.

I’m very happy with what the Dobbs sold for. I like this old German hat even more, but it’s also not my size.