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French Hats and makers.

Steve1857

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An old Thibet from France. My first Thibet. Great felt, without steam easily to shape and also a nice ribbon edge stitchwork on it. Color is very dark blue and it has good proportions. Like this one!
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Cool find, Marcel.

Love the contrasting thin purple ribbon and bow treatment. The liner logo is a wonderful plus.

It should clean up nicely with some tlc and steam.
 

Pellie

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An old black french hat. Noureau Degennes La Haye-Descartes. Don't know anything about this hat, but i knew it was old. I think it's 40's-50's. Very nice thick felt. Don't know who the maker is.
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Mean Eyed Matt

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Very nice one, Marcel!
From the picture the felt looks like wool felt and all the components (felt, sweat, label, size label) point in my view to the Aude Valley/Esperaza—which, with names such as Jean Bourrel and others, was the center of French wool felt production.
 

Pellie

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Very nice one, Marcel!
From the picture the felt looks like wool felt and all the components (felt, sweat, label, size label) point in my view to the Aude Valley/Esperaza—which, with names such as Jean Bourrel and others, was the center of French wool felt production.
Thanks Matt. Maybe you are right it's woolfelt. But then it's the finest woolfelt i own right now! Jean Bourrel? Interesting!
 
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Mean Eyed Matt

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Thanks Matt. Maybe you are right it's woolfelt. But then it's the finest woolfelt i own right now! Jean Bourrel? Interesting!
I might be wrong, Marcel, but that’s how it looks to me. And YES, the wool felts from back then could be of incredible quality - take a look at the following thread—if you aren't familiar with it already—feel free to skip the first 10 pages of the pointless debate about "my wool hat shrank in the rain," and enjoy the subsequent collection of wool felts, some of which are of breathtaking quality:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/the-international-wool-felt-consortium.91613/
 

Pellie

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I might be wrong, Marcel, but that’s how it looks to me. And YES, the wool felts from back then could be of incredible quality - take a look at the following thread—if you aren't familiar with it already—feel free to skip the first 10 pages of the pointless debate about "my wool hat shrank in the rain," and enjoy the subsequent collection of wool felts, some of which are of breathtaking quality:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/the-international-wool-felt-consortium.91613/
I am definitely not saying you are wrong Matt ;-) I will going to read the thread!
 
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Jean Peille homburg in black. Not sure, but i think it's pre-war. Great hat, came in a little dirty, but it was easily to clean and to shape. I think it's made of woolfelt. What do you think @Mean Eyed Matt ? One spot in the brim, but overall in a good condition. It's a great hat!
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Came in like this with some dust on it....

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Marcel, Super find! Looks like Wool to me. My guess would be early to mid 1930s.
 
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An old black french hat. Noureau Degennes La Haye-Descartes. Don't know anything about this hat, but i knew it was old. I think it's 40's-50's. Very nice thick felt. Don't know who the maker is. View attachment 802763 View attachment 802764 View attachment 802765 View attachment 802766 View attachment 802767 View attachment 802768 View attachment 802769 View attachment 802770
Marcel, Another great find! It's definitely Wool. You could be correct on the dating but possibly earlier. I will see if I can find anything about it.
 

Steve1857

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Jean Peille homburg in black. Not sure, but i think it's pre-war. Great hat, came in a little dirty, but it was easily to clean and to shape. I think it's made of woolfelt. What do you think @Mean Eyed Matt ? One spot in the brim, but overall in a good condition. It's a great hat!
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Super find, Marcel.

Like Steve, I think it's wool too. You can usually tell by the amount of lint and also that wool Homburgs are a bit more malleable than felt Homburgs.

That's true too of wool contra felt hats in general.

Congrats on finding it.
 
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Hi Steve, this is the best i could make. I hope this will help you?
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Marcel, Thank you! There are words in the top part of the image but I tried to run it through ChatGP image AI but the results were not helpful. I couldn't find anything on "Noureau - Degennes Rue des Halles La Haye-Descartes". "La Haye-Descartes" became "Descartes" in 1967. It's a small commune and there are no address books available online. I am pretty sure the hat was sourced but the paper label only has numeric information.
 

Pellie

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Marcel, Thank you! There are words in the top part of the image but I tried to run it through ChatGP image AI but the results were not helpful. I couldn't find anything on "Noureau - Degennes Rue des Halles La Haye-Descartes". "La Haye-Descartes" became "Descartes" in 1967. It's a small commune and there are no address books available online. I am pretty sure the hat was sourced but the paper label only has numeric information.
Thanks for trying to get info Steve, appriciate that. After all it's a kinda mystery hat haha. Maybe pre-war.
 
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Jean Peille homburg in black. Not sure, but i think it's pre-war. Great hat, came in a little dirty, but it was easily to clean and to shape. I think it's made of woolfelt. What do you think @Mean Eyed Matt ? One spot in the brim, but overall in a good condition. It's a great hat!
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Very cool find, Marcel. I like the look of this one.
 

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