Footwear to go with our jackets

[TartuWolf]

So nearly a 12cm difference in circumference of the upper shaft if you measured without flattening the leather. Seems like a large difference. The area diff and shaft volume diff would be even bigger.

Well around 3-4cm difference in circumference all throughout. Yes the area difference / shaft volume is very large. I hope we can sort this out because I love the last and how they turned out in general.

 

[Liam_Og]

They do look gorgeous!

 

[Liam_Og]

Well around 3-4cm difference in circumference all throughout. Yes the area difference / shaft volume is very large. I hope we can sort this out because I love the last and how they turned out in general.

The circumference diff looks bigger than 3-4 cm based on my expert eyeballs. The diameter diff is maybe 3-4 cm?

 

[Tom71]

Here's a visual of them next to my other engineer boots.

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I measured the shaft and the instep (crudely, but same way across them).
Upper shaft : ~41cm vs ~37cm
Lower shaft right above the buckle/strap: ~37cm vs ~33cm
Under heel near the rand - right below the strap/buckle: ~41-42cm vs ~44-45cm
- Overall 3-4cm larger shaft /instep.

So the vamp/counter (bottom part) is good, but the shaft/instep/upper part is oversized or way too large for me at least.

Impressive comparison. Finger´s crossed for a hassle-free axchange/remake.

Just FYI: I recently ordered a jacket from a local Start-up. The result isn´t 100% to my liking. I can´t really say that anybody "did something wrong", but the result just is not perfect. From the very first second the owners started working with me to get me the jacket I hoped for.
Customer-experience is never stronger than when things don´t go according to plan.

 

[MrProper]

Customer-experience is never stronger than when things don´t go according to plan.

Ultimately, it is management. And good management shows itself in a crisis and not in fair weather.

 

[TartuWolf]

Yeah if they make this right then I'm super pleased despite this mishap and would definitely order from them again. But we'll see how this turns out, no response so far.

 

[Drzdave58]

Yeah if they make this right then I'm super pleased despite this mishap and would definitely order from them again. But we'll see how this turns out, no response so far.

I think Willie will sort it out for you. Thanks for the photo comparisons. It’s obvious to see the shaft has way too much volume. I do like that last as well. Keep us posted on how the situation progresses.

 

[Drzdave58]

Willies boondockers today.

 

[Herrvallmo]

The Willie's engineers came in brown CXL!
Asked for a single midsole but got a double. Although you could argue that the second layer is an outsole. Either way, not what I requested, but this can be considered as miscommunication.
Biggest issue is the instep and the whole shaft. Even though I sent him my calf and ankle measurements, together with several measurements of the instep it still came out unwearable.
I'll try to figure out what are my options from here with Willie.
Beautiful boots though!
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That's a bummer mate, hopefully they'll make it right for you.

 

[TartuWolf]

Willie asked me to send the boots back to them at my expense. They will make alterations and send them back to me at their expense.
Gave him this file showcasing what needs to be altered. Waiting for his confirmation that it's all clear, then I'll send them back.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l34pfBztZ199-dqmCXiEdWullsc65IjD4_Uh-7spNzU/

 

[Pandemic]

Willie asked me to send the boots back to them at my expense. They will make alterations and send them back to me at their expense.
Gave him this file showcasing what needs to be altered. Waiting for his confirmation that it's all clear, then I'll send them back.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l34pfBztZ199-dqmCXiEdWullsc65IjD4_Uh-7spNzU/

Kudos on providing clear and detailed instructions! It ***** having to pay part of the shipping, but I’m sure it will be worth it.

 

[Tom71]

Willie asked me to send the boots back to them at my expense. They will make alterations and send them back to me at their expense.
Gave him this file showcasing what needs to be altered. Waiting for his confirmation that it's all clear, then I'll send them back.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l34pfBztZ199-dqmCXiEdWullsc65IjD4_Uh-7spNzU/

Very good! That’s a measured approach. Personally, I am a big fan of compromise when I can afford it.

 

[TartuWolf]

Yeah I'll eat the extra costs and come back for more if everything works out in the end

 

[MrProper]

My first two Waldviertler shoes (I also bought them in blue). Look similar to Chucks, but are real shoes made of good leather. Wide toe box makes them very comfortable. Clean workmanship (red Wing can take a leaf out of their book), removable inner sole and replaceable with another (e.g. felt), outer sole can be replaced if worn, 1 year guarantee against manufacturing defects. At a very acceptable price.
I'm going to buy the Chelseas from them next.

 

[pillepalle123]

Never though I would see Waldviertlers here. These are the Wirbelwind, right?

I have four pairs which I wear in the summer: Ansa, Kommod Flex Sommertramper and Tramper Flex.
Wide toebox is just comfortable but the zero drop and the low amount of dampening on some models took a while to get used to. Now I can wear them all day.

Quality is really good and you can often get them quite cheap (unused) on willhaben.at if you live near Austria.

 

[Tom71]

My first two Waldviertler shoes (I also bought them in blue). Look similar to Chucks, but are real shoes made of good leather. Wide toe box makes them very comfortable. Clean workmanship (red Wing can take a leaf out of their book), removable inner sole and replaceable with another (e.g. felt), outer sole can be replaced if worn, 1 year guarantee against manufacturing defects. At a very acceptable price.
I'm going to buy the Chelseas from them next.
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Nice. Always like a quality appraoch to iconic casual-wear. You can sport the look but don´t have to compromise on what you´ve gotten used to in terms of quality!

 

[MrProper]

Never though I would see Waldviertlers here. These are the Wirbelwind, right?

I have four pairs which I wear in the summer: Ansa, Kommod Flex Sommertramper and Tramper Flex.
Wide toebox is just comfortable but the zero drop and the low amount of dampening on some models took a while to get used to. Now I can wear them all day.

Quality is really good and you can often get them quite cheap (unused) on willhaben.at if you live near Austria.

Yes, exactly. "Wirbelwind" -> Whirlwind.
Some of them have funny names that you have to get used to.
The Tramper don't look very good when they're new, but when they're really worn in and a bit greasy, they can compete visually with any other work boot. With the difference that they are really comfortable ;-)

 

[pillepalle123]

Sometimes they produce limited versions, got the Tramper in this groovy leather.

 

[Tom71]

Sometimes they produce Special Versions, got the Tramper in this funky leather.
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That´s just embossed, right?!

Looks like Stingray, but in "real" hide these would be a 4-figure sum surely...

 

[pillepalle123]

Yeah embossed, never seen Stingray leather and seems a bit pricey