Has anyone else, besides @Unspecifiedtea, noticed any...shrinkage after being caught in the rain in a 5* HH jacket?
It's not so much the 2mm leather animal type but the full action back pattern. I'm still hanging around to see if someone develop something like that with Shawn first...Shawn said he will make the same leather, but from cow instead of horse. That will be available in black and brown. I am curious.
It might be the backing he used on the underside that is puckering.I’m thinking of doing the hot water treatment on the collar only and hopefully shrink the top layer to be the same as size as the bottom. If that doesn’t work then I’ll probably bring it to a tailor. They will most likely have to make the collar smaller overall but I can live with that.
But isn't true that one member of this forum had a jacket made by JL in the german HH, and it shrunk after it got wet?It's not so much the 2mm leather animal type but the full action back pattern. I'm still hanging around to see if someone develop something like that with Shawn first...
Waiting to see HH's next jacket with Shawn first.
It might be the backing he used on the underside that is puckering.
I've washed and dried my leathers many different ways. Heat will always shrink unexpectedly. But cold water is usually ok, shrinkage will max out at 0.25" to 0.5". 1" smaller in P2P is a lot. That's at least 2" or more around the circumference.
Does the jacket stretch back when you pull on it?
Anyways, sorry about what happened. Hope you find a good solution. One of the big attributes of horsehide is suppose to handle water better.
Boooo!DHL SUCKS!!! Sitting on my shipment until the delivery due date!!!
It’s been in Chicago since Sunday. Worst carrier. Ever.
I was quite surprised too. I've attached p2p measurements pictures of the factory pictures vs the jacket now. The jacket stretches a bit but not much. It's a tight but luckily I can still wear it and just need to get the collar fixed.It's not so much the 2mm leather animal type but the full action back pattern. I'm still hanging around to see if someone develop something like that with Shawn first...
Waiting to see HH's next jacket with Shawn first.
It might be the backing he used on the underside that is puckering.
I've washed and dried my leathers many different ways. Heat will always shrink unexpectedly. But cold water is usually ok, shrinkage will max out at 0.25" to 0.5". 1" smaller in P2P is a lot. That's at least 2" or more around the circumference.
Does the jacket stretch back when you pull on it?
Anyways, sorry about what happened. Hope you find a good solution. One of the big attributes of horsehide is suppose to handle water better.
Boooo!
That’s a great design! 21.5” on a 34”!?? LOL. That’s insane though.I was quite surprised too. I've attached p2p measurements pictures of the factory pictures vs the jacket now. The jacket stretches a bit but not much. It's a tight but luckily I can still wear it and just need to get the collar fixed.
Btw, thank you @Canuck Panda I copied the design of your SB cossack to make this jacket. Andddd I'm currently in the making a jacket with JL that I might be drawing inspiration from your latest M200 jackets too
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Yeah it’s not so much I’m disappointed. Just kind of nothing. Not hot or cold. Lukewarm.Sorry that you're disappointed with the 5 Star man.
It does look good on you though.
I’m sorry to read this. You and @MrProper are the 5star Gurus, and to see a miss on this jacket really lowers my opinion of the brand in that they should really be working extra hard to get it right for their #1 Ambassador. 5 Star seems to act like a sit-com: every jacket starts at square one without any retained knowledge of your past (what 15-20?) jackets. By now Shawn should be telling you what measurements work for your jackets.My 5 oz 5 Star arrived. A mixed bag. It’s not 5 oz HH, but I’d say it’s a solid 4oz and uniformly thick throughout. No thinner spots at all. That is great.
A couple things were missed/overlooked. I asked for no interior pockets and got one anyway. There is no label indicating what it’s made from. The chest pocket was set too high (I have asked on the previous two that the chest pocket be set 1” lower than standard) and this was pictured in my spec sheet as well. The sleeve cuff buttons are fairly horribly done. If they last 6 months it’ll be a miracle. That’s all on 5 Star.
For my part, I blew the sleeve spec fairly wildly. I had fears of repeating the CHL debacle. Went WAY too wide at the elbow. Not terrible and certainly fixable.
I do love the plain back. I think it looks great and the upgraded buckles are nice. Overall it just feels meh. Love the hide but the rest is rather perfunctory.
I’m also still getting those strange diagonal creases in the sleeves. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why.
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Yeah that’s the feeling I have too. No doubt I blew it with the sleeves and I can fix that (at my expense) but there’s just no excuse for the missed details and lazy execution on the cuffs. I’ll retire on this one. Maybe fling to the bay.I’m sorry to read this. You and @MrProper are the 5star Gurus, and to see a miss on this jacket really lowers my opinion of the brand in that they should really be working extra hard to get it right for their #1 Ambassador. 5 Star seems to act like a sit-com: every jacket starts at square one without any retained knowledge of your past (what 15-20?) jackets.
I’m also still getting those strange diagonal creases in the sleeves. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why.
The issue is demonstrated in these photo's:
Then they compare 5* with Avirex.
Yeah it’s not so much I’m disappointed. Just kind of nothing. Not hot or cold. Lukewarm.
Not bad, but you have better jackets. That with the breast pocket is very unsatisfactory. Exactly the same with me. I said just like my brown jacket, so also the pocket setup, and they placed the breast pocket too high. With my brown one, the collar is too wide, even though I had specified the size.My 5 oz 5 Star arrived. A mixed bag. It’s not 5 oz HH, but I’d say it’s a solid 4oz and uniformly thick throughout. No thinner spots at all. That is great.
A couple things were missed/overlooked. I asked for no interior pockets and got one anyway. There is no label indicating what it’s made from. The chest pocket was set too high (I have asked on the previous two that the chest pocket be set 1” lower than standard) and this was pictured in my spec sheet as well. The sleeve cuff buttons are fairly horribly done. If they last 6 months it’ll be a miracle. That’s all on 5 Star.
For my part, I blew the sleeve spec fairly wildly. I had fears of repeating the CHL debacle. Went WAY too wide at the elbow. Not terrible and certainly fixable.
I do love the plain back. I think it looks great and the upgraded buckles are nice. Overall it just feels meh. Love the hide but the rest is rather perfunctory.
I’m also still getting those strange diagonal creases in the sleeves. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why.
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Agreed 100%. I think a huge part of the problem or the cause of the problems, is that these jackets are made on assembly lines. There is no one single machinist seeing the jacket through from start to finish. This is also why, as @handymike pointed out, every jacket build starts from scratch, with zero inherited knowledge of what was done succesfully (or unsucessfully) before. When you pay a premium, you are in part, paying to avoid these novice errors.Not bad, but you have better jackets. That with the breast pocket is very unsatisfactory. Exactly the same with me. I said just like my brown jacket, so also the pocket setup, and they placed the breast pocket too high. With my brown one, the collar is too wide, even though I had specified the size.
Nevertheless I am happy with my black one because it is really good otherwise.
The problem with 5* is that they have no discrete sense of quality or sense of proportion, designs, etc. They are contract manufacturers that sometimes screw things up as soon as self-contained interpretation is needed.
Also, I think there are strong differences in the skills of cutters and machinists. If you're lucky, a good one will make the jacket, if not, a unskilled worker.
Since this 2 mm leather is also no longer available and I am currently satisfied and have no idea for a new jacket, I will probably limit myself in the future to Shearlings of 5*, if other colors come.
That's the name of the guy who ordered this custom jacket, the first owner. Not the guy who made it.Thedi, for one, shows in no uncertain terms who made your jacket. Me likey.
This comparison is not valid tbh. That's a used jacket you bought second hand, not one custom made for you. Thedi certainly does not operate on an assembly line model, LOL. I would not put these two jackets in the same tier for comparisons sake. It's like comparing:Thedi, for one, shows in no uncertain terms who made your jacket. Me likey.