Fine Creek Leathers Tyler

[ai00344]

Great addition and I for one love that big exposed zipper. Looks like it will age super fast which will be a nice contrast to your other jackets which always amazed me with how pristine they were. Enjoy!

 

[ton312]

Very, very cool! The hide is amazing. It actually glows a bit! Fits looks spot on perfect. I personally think the sleeve cuffs are fine and wouldn’t be bothered in the least by them. Reminds me of my PHWM a bit, with a little more LL slant. I love it. I know you’re a Halfbelt bro (I am too) but I think this style really suits you. Well done!

 

[Mich486]

Mine is not a FCL. The collar shape of mine is very true to the collars of the Corsair/Dominator models from LL. To be honest, I like yours more...

Addict Clothes right?

 

[sweetfights]

Fine Creek Leathers Tyler

Approximately two years ago, I reached a state of mind rarely found in this community: leather jacket contentment. Yes, I know: blasphemy! I liked my assortment of jackets and I did not feel the need to purchase any more. Nevertheless, in the recesses of my (tiny) mind, I had a small yearning for one more black jacket. The yearning was mostly in the background and I rarely entertained it. I briefly toyed with the idea of purchasing a Himel Imperial in black, but I already have a good number of Himel jackets, as well as a GW Imperial in brown. Thus, I successfully resisted that temptation. However, the notion of “just one more black jacket” remained and, while not aggressively searching, I kept my eyes open – at least one eye.

Over the years, I had tried on several Fine Creek Leather models at Self Edge and, while I liked much about the jackets, the fits did not work. Moreover, I was not interested in mismatched panels, which eliminated certain of their offerings.

Recently, I discovered the FCL Tyler. This jacket appeared to be what I was kinda, sorta looking for and really appealed to me. However, no retailers near me carried the Tyler and, given the fit issues with the other FCL models, I was reluctant to buy a FCL jacket without trying it on. The published measurements appeared to be perfect, but we all know how often published measurements do not translate to a good fit. After hemming and hawing for a bit, I decided to give it a try.

Executive summary: This jacket rocks and fits me better than any prior OTR jacket – frankly, it fits me better than many custom jackets.

Provenience

The FCL Tyler is a reproduction of a prior version of the Lewis Leathers Corsair. Why didn’t I simply buy a Corsair? First, the version of the Corsair reproduced by FCL is not currently made by LL. Rather, the current LL Corsair does not have a sleeve zipper (the Lightening does, but not the Corsair). Second, I hate the LL patch – this is a deal breaker for me. Third, I prefer Shinki HH over LL HH.

Leather

The leather is veg-tanned, aniline finished 1.3 mm Shinki HH (I confirmed the leather with two different retailers). It is quite robust, yet pliable and immediately wearable without a break-in. Exactly what I prefer. The color is a dull black – not at all shiny. It is a tea-core HH. I love the leather!

Cut

The cut of this jacket is stellar! The relationship between the shoulders and the chest is perfect (for me). The waist is trim. The sleeve width is great (up to the cuffs). No excess material under the shoulders. The extra length in the back is fantastic (more below on this).

One nit about the cut: The sleeve openings are just a tad too wide. If it bothers me, I will have them narrowed.

Design

I was looking for something a tad sportier than my Himel Frobisher and RMC Steinbeck, so as to distinguish the jacket from a typical half-belt design. On the other hand, I did not want a jacket that was too busy. The Tyler fits the bill perfectly. The cuff zippers, sleeve zipper, and waistband tab add the additional character I was seeking, without being too bold or ornate. Years ago, I was on the fence about the waistband tab, but it grew on me.

I am not in love with the collar. It currently sits a bit oddly. I may have to call upon one of our resident collar experts – e.g., @handymike – for an assist.

I also do not love the red liner. Can liner be dyed?

Stitching

The stitching is very, very good, but not perfect. Definitely better than mid-tier jackets, but not the best I have ever seen.

The top stitching is rather simple.

Seams

There is nothing noteworthy about the seams.

Zipper

The CLIX main zipper is super robust. I previously scoffed at some who exalted larger zippers, but I really like this one so maybe I am a convert.

I poked around a bit and discovered that CLIX zippers were used as far back as the 50’s or 60’s (not sure about earlier), including by LL and other brands.

In general, I prefer leather on each side of the zipper partially covering the teeth, as opposed to a fully exposed zipper. That said, I like the lack of covering here as it adds to the character of the jacket.

Fit

The best fitting OTR leather jacket I have ever purchased. It fits like a custom jacket – actually, better than many of my custom jackets. The shoulder / chest drop is perfect for me, as is the length.

One of my gripes with many jackets is that, in order to get the back length where I want it, the front becomes too long. This jacket has a dip in the back, such that I have the desired length in back without extra length in front. I love this about the jacket.

In case its not obvious, I am very pleased with this purchase.

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Thanks for the thoughtful and insightful write up. This fits you perfectly. The only fix would be the wide sleeves.
Congratulations! And OTR too!! Success.

 

[sweetfights]

Thanks for the thoughtful and insightful write up. This fits you perfectly. The only fix would be the wide sleeves.
Congratulations! And OTR too!! Success.

And I think the collar is actually perfect!!

 

[Tom71]

Addict Clothes right?

Yes. The leather is simply much nicer than the HH Lewis leathers use. Fit is slightly better too, as I am right in between 42 and 44 with LL.

 

[Carlos840]

That's a really nice jacket and a great review, thanks.
I can't help but think that this jacket is a stepping stone towards more out there designs for you.
Soon you will be ready for a cross zip, i know it, i sense a disturbance in the force...

 

[handymike]

What a great jacket! I too suffer with poor fitting FC jackets- especially in the shoulders. I had no idea they were using Shinki on some models either. The collar can be easily shaped with a steamer (go at the underside). The sleeves do look wide, but that allows for those huge watches of yours . I think you did really well here. Congratulations!
...PM me and I can walk you through the collar shaping if you want.

 

[Jin431]

Looks great! That collar looks super! Can't believe all the jackets we see you wear are not new and that's some great impulse control you resisted for 2 years. Now comes the landslide. . .

 

[red devil]

Congratulations @Superfluous ! This is exactly why we should not discount OTR jackets, somethimes the fit is just where it needs to be! As for the sleeve, I suspect you will find out if you want them shortened or not after spending some time with the jacket.

That's a really nice jacket and a great review, thanks.
I can't help but think that this jacket is a stepping stone towards more out there designs for you.
Soon you will be ready for a cross zip, i know it, i sense a disturbance in the force...

I was actually hoping to see a crosszip before clicking in the thread, it has been on @Superfluous mind for a while if my feeling is correct. But in retrospect, this is indeed a good step towards it

 

[jeo]

Congrats Super! Amazing jacket, amazing fit!

I actually love the shape of the collar and how it lays, kinda reminiscent of the Eastman Californian or FW Mulholland.

The cuff openings do look wide, but I suspect that it is partly because the jacket is brand spankin' new. If I were you I wouldn't do anything to them quite yet. These FCLs are known to mold really well and after some wear it might look better. Obviously they'll never get smaller. If it's a matter of just looks for you as opposed to how it feels, definitely give it some time, you can always get them altered down the road. But you got to actually wear it man!! I've recently seen some of your Himels that must be 3-4 years old and they look like they've never been worn!

 

[Ayeteael]

FCL for the win. Very nice.

 

[Boyo]

Great description, review and write-up..( that should be the template for all future jacket write-ups).
Fits you to a T.. I see your point on the sleeves opening, but that wouldn't bother me at all if the rest of the jacket looked & fit me that good.

 

[Bfd70]

What a great jacket! I too suffer with poor fitting FC jackets- especially in the shoulders. I had no idea they were using Shinki on some models either. The collar can be easily shaped with a steamer (go at the underside). The sleeves do look wide, but that allows for those huge watches of yours . I think you did really well here. Congratulations!
...PM me and I can walk you through the collar shaping if you want.

I’d like to know about collar shaping too. Thread?

 

[Fonzie]

What a great review and beautiful jacket, perfect fit too! @Superfluous

I join the cross zip support crew to encourage you to try this style that is missing in your outstanding collection and, IMO, the FW Sunset in black deerskin would be the best match for you. Just a thought.

I’d like to know about collar shaping too. Thread?

Yeah @handymike , I second that motion and kindly ask you to please guide us in a dedicated thread about this.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Superfluous]

What a great review and beautiful jacket, perfect fit too! @Superfluous

I join the cross zip support crew to encourage you to try this style that is missing in your outstanding collection and, IMO, the FW Sunset in black deerskin would be the best match for you. Just a thought.

If I crossed-over to the dark side and tried a cross-zip -- shiver me timbers -- the deerskin FW Sunset would be at the top of my list. I love the Himel Avro, but that is for more dedicated cross-zippers.

 

[handymike]

What a great review and beautiful jacket, perfect fit too! @Superfluous

I join the cross zip support crew to encourage you to try this style that is missing in your outstanding collection and, IMO, the FW Sunset in black deerskin would be the best match for you. Just a thought.


Yeah @handymike , I second that motion and kindly ask you to please guide us in a dedicated thread about this.
Thanks in advance.

I might just do this over the weekend. I think a video would probably work best, we’ll see if my son will hold the phone.

 

[roadking04]

Thanks for taking the time to write the great review. The jacket fits you great! I like the big exposed front zip and the sleeve pocket gives it some Rock and roll style. I think if you tightened up the cuffs a bit, it would make it a little bit "edgier". This jacket needs some wear. It's only gonna look better.

 

[Fonzie]

If I crossed-over to the dark side and tried a cross-zip -- shiver me timbers -- the deerskin FW Sunset would be at the top of my list. I love the Himel Avro, but that is for more dedicated cross-zippers.

You already rock cafe racers effortlessly so the sunset it’s not a bridge too far, if anything it is a bridge closer to your preferred half belt styles.
...and I am not playing the enabler here at all...

 

[El Marro]

Congratulations Super, that is one hell of a nice jacket! I think the collar looks just fine as it is, nice and sleek. I also think the sleeves are ok since you don’t ride a motorcycle. And as for the red lining, seems to me to be the one and only choice for a bad ass jacket like this one.